New anti-carry editorial by Memphis Commercial Appeal

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I'm a little late posting it, but this Memphis Commercial Appeal editorial appeared this past Friday, February 20. And yes, this is the same newspaper that has decided to post the names of TN Handgun Carry Permit holders.

Editorial: Logic lacking in gun bills
A fast track to a bad policy: Making it easier to bring firearms to places where families gather defies common sense.

Friday, February 20, 2009

Alcohol and guns make a dangerous cocktail past 11 p.m., but they're OK at 10:59. Evidently that's the thinking behind one of four firearms-related bills put on a fast track by the Tennessee General Assembly's Hand Gun Study Committee Thursday.

The panel wants to amend the law prohibiting people from carrying guns into establishments where alcohol is served to make it legal until 11.

Committee members would also maintain a ban on people who carry handguns from drinking alcohol and a ban on handguns at establishments that have age limits for entry -- mostly bars where smoking is allowed.

In the rush to expand the territory in which people with permits may carry their handguns, the committee also recommended passage of a bill allowing guns in state, county and municipal parks -- the ballfields, golf courses, picnic areas and other spots typically enjoyed by families with children.

It would also be OK, under a committee recommendation, to pack firearms in what have been protected wildlife areas.

And while they were at it, committee members recommended passage of a measure that would create an exception to the public records law for the list of Tennesseans with handgun carry permits. It would also criminalize the publication of that list -- a provision with which Rep. Curry Todd, R-Collierville, said he had no First Amendment concerns.

The first three of these ill-considered bills are products of a pent-up desire among some legislators and lobbyists to expand the reach of private handgun carriers in Tennessee that was given new life this year when the Republican Party gained majorities in both houses of the legislature.

The fourth is in reaction to the recent discovery by permit holders of an electronic database on The Commercial Appeal's Web site listing what has been a public record.

One hopes that the backlash over that discovery will give way to some thought about the consequences of handgun proliferation.

Do we really want loaded handguns on the golf course? At our favorite picnic sites? On the sidelines of our kids' soccer games? At the table next to us at our favorite steakhouse?

And if the presence of guns in a restaurant that serves alcohol represents a danger to the public at 11 p.m., as members of the committee have conceded, why would they think the danger disappears during the cocktail hour?

The 11 p.m. cutoff apparently was the result of a compromise. "You've got to keep in mind here that the criminal element, they don't have a time frame," said Todd, who favored no curfew. "They're going to still carry, and they will shoot you."

Next week, the bills are expected to be discussed in the criminal practices subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee. They could go to the full committee the following week, and to the House floor the week after that.

That's a narrow window of opportunity, but for the safety of Tennessee families cooler heads must prevail.

At least they got one thing correct. It really makes no sense to permit carry in restaurants only to 11:00 p.m. If HCP holders can be trusted to carry at 10:59 p.m., they can be trusted to carry at 1:00 a.m.
 
Let us keep our guns anytime and any where. Just outlaw booze. Its funny how prohibition was met by such a supportive nation. I cant wait to see when they prohibit firearms as they did alcohol. I smell two more amendments in the works, the prohibition of firearms, and the repeal there of.
 
Do we really want loaded handguns on the golf course? At our favorite picnic sites? On the sidelines of our kids' soccer games? At the table next to us at our favorite steakhouse?

Hell yes!
 
Well, Your Highness ;) if you feel strongly about it, the Commercial Appeal is asking for comments on HB 0960, that would allow Handgun Carry Permit holders to legally carry in parks. For more, including how to let them know what your opinion is, see here.
 
That's hilarious. The 23:00 hours Stampede. Suddenly about half the patrons look at the clock, get up and leave. Bars are going to hate that, but it's funny.
 
I strongly believe that booze and loaded firearms DO NOT mix. IN Tx. it is against the law to carry into a bar where 51% or more of their income is generated by the sale of booze. Whether consumed on site or not.

I say lets keep the loaded guns out of the bars but allow the carrier to stay in front of the bar until the a**hole comes out and then blow him away...:D

Works for me :neener:
 
Not presently. A bill that would permit licensed carry in restaurants serving alcohol is being considered this week by the General Assembly

I'm excited at the prospect of being able to carry in more restaurants than Waffle House. That's not to say I don't love WaHo, of course.
 
Sure, I mean who doesn't love Waffle House? But yes, it would be quite a pain to have to leave your gun in the car just because you stopped to eat. IMO, that rule is pretty silly.
 
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