New glock 19 & grip reduction

[tackleberry45]

Looking to get a Gen 4 G19. I was trained on 1911s and I am a CZ nut. I want to get a G19 but I know immediately I will want to modify it to better fall inline with the ergos/ comfort/ grip angle of the 1911 and CZ style pistols. I did the cursory google of companies that do the grip reductions/ stippling, trigger guard undercut, and, as many of you know, it came up with quite a few companies that do this. So the question is who has the quality and reputation for doing this type of Glock work?

 

[jaowens76]

Going to start with the obligatory " shoot it before you mod it". After that I would say bowtie tactical or weapon worx. I do think a combination of the two is your best bet. Remove the finger grooves, under cut the trigger guard and shoot it till you go broke. A Glock's ergos will grow on you (like a fungus). ;p

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[elde]

Cold Bore Customs is well thought of in the LE and the General Glock community as well. I've always been happy with Lane's work.

http://www.coldborecustom.com/Home.html

 

[rskent]

I'm with jaowens on the “shoot it before you mod it” thing.

I think the beautiful thing about Glocks is they're practicality.
So for me, it's a good set of sights and that's about it.
Past that and they loose there practical charm.
Sort of like an Accord with a wing on the rear deck.

 

[Walt Sherrill]

I've always disliked the Glock Grip angle, but I've found that when I use the sights, the gun typically sends the bullets where they're supposed to go. (In competition, where speed is important, I've gotten some of my best results with a Glock 34... even though I prefer to shoot other guns.)

 

[Olympus]

As a huge 1911 owner and shooter, I recently fell in love with the Gen4 Glocks. I never noticed anything odd or uncomfortable about the grip angle. It was always about the blocky thickness of the frame and the Gen4 solved that problem for me.

I have 4 Gen4 Glocks now and I shoot them all incredibly. The only modifications I did was install the Ghost Edge 3.5 connector. After I got into Glocks, my brother got into them even heavily and has done TONS of modifications to his Glocks and they are essentially a Glock frame and slide with ZEV and Salient parts and barrels. He has done the stippling jobs and undercut trigger guards, and trigger guard modifications and when he hands them to me, I'd much rather shoot my factory Glocks.

I had to be the echo in the room, but shoot the gun at least 500 rounds before you make any decision to do modifications. Glock modifications have a big negative effect on resale value in my area. You practically can't give away a "stippled" or "dremeled" Glock in my neck of the woods.

 

[JTQ]

I agree with most of the above comments.

I'm also a 1911 guy, and never cared for the large and square grips on Glocks, but the Gen 4 Glocks have really improved the grip feel to me, to the point where I am considering getting one. I don't care for the plastic "goal post" rear sight, so I'd most likely change that out immediately, but otherwise I'd probably leave the rest of the gun stock.

 

[Tirod]

I'll back up another step - if you think you need to modify the gun before you have even tried it out and purchased it, then it's the wrong gun.

Buy the gun that DOES fit properly first. Have you looked into a Lone Wolf lower? Instead of spending 50 - 75% of the purchase price on the gun in smithing fees to modify it, buy the right gun first. It also goes to knowing your budget - an altered Glock with frame mods and a final value of $750 to $1100 may not be the best goal.

It's like saying "I wanna bone stock issue 1911 but I still want G10 grips, beavertail, ambi safety, Commander hammer, etc etc." Go buy that instead of risking someone else not doing the job to your exact expectatons. Smiths do great work but they cannot get what you see in your mind's eye down pat perfectly. It's just going to be close enough to get by.

Sure, you can buy a Glock and have it professionally chopped and channeled to your specs, it's your money. Plenty do. And we see plenty of them in auctions selling for nearly the cost of on new off the shelf. The money isn't often recovered because the reality didn't measure up.

Just saying, if you want a Glock, then leave it alone, because that is what makes it a Glock.

Back to our regularly scheduled "Go for it man!" cause they be spending your money, right?

 

[Winkman822]

Another 1911 guy here, and I will echo the others who have said the Gen 4 Glock grip has improved immensely. I do however, still have a very strong dislike of the finger grooves. They still feel like they're pushing my fingers apart, so for me they would absolutely have to go. I doubt I'd modify beyond that and a good set of sights.

 

[Polar Express]

ANOTHER 1911 guy here, and I recently committed to buy a Gen 4 G19. A long, arduous and horribly over-thought process, brought me to that conclusion. I like other guns better, but they don't have just the right combination of characteristics as the G19 does for this specific intended purpose. (the feel of the Glock grip angle was always the big hangup for me. The Gen 4 seems to solve that issue)

I'm pretty handy, and so tools, their function and usage is pretty 'common sense' to me. And while I see the point and perspective of the folks that say "stock it what makes it Glock", there are virtually countless reasons why any aftermarket industry exists. (trucks, diesels, cars, motorcycles, guns, marine, etc)

When a manufacturer makes a product (any product) they do so to appeal to the widest market, the most possible people (or in some cases, meet a gov't or industry regulation) I installed different tires and shocks on my truck, because I like how they work better than the ones the factory installs. When I paint my house, I use a brand/color/sheen that I want, and what works for ME. Making mods to a gun is no different, (from my perspective).

When I built my Jeep, I can only guess I had over $50K into parts and materials over the 15+ years of modding, and building, using, breaking, modding, building, etc.... if I had to do it over again, I could do it for a lot less, and would know exactly what I need to do, without all the trial and error. But.. that trial and error taught me a TON. Again, guns are no different.

So, with my life experience, I suggest that yeah, you do shoot it first, but try others that have done mods to their guns, see what mods they have done that you like. Don't be afraid to try some of the mods yourself. (Youtube has some fabulous how-to videos on just about every subject under the sun) When you do the mods on any mechanical device yourself, you're intimately more familiar with that product/tool/machine. Go slow, be patient, take lots of notes, measure 4 times, for every time you want to cut or grind something. Again, be patient.

I've had some of the most rewarding experiences when I did the work and my mods did exactly what I wanted to accomplish.

I do realize there will be others who differ from my opinions, but those are just my opinions, formed by my experiences.

PE