Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by dkpack99, Feb 19, 2021.
Self guided hunt, Sitka Deer only...
Thanks Doc, the 300H&H weighs a bit over a ton... it will definitely not be making the trip! We’re only hunting Sitka deer, but do want to be well armed in case we upset a bruin.
Here is an an oldie but a goody:
It is a good place to start anyway. Let us know what you end up choosing.
My Grandfather spent WWII in the Marines on Kodiak waiting for a Japanese invasion that never came. He told me a few times he saw a few bears that were so big he and the others felt undergunned armed with Garands and .45s as they watched over mates fishing for salmon in the rivers.
He said they never shot a grizzly while he was stationed there so he told me never did know what it really took to take one. Since bear guides ask hunters for pretty heavy calibers, the 7 may even be too “light” in a scrape with a big boar or an angry sow.
Good luck getting into shape and in the hunt!
Grundens rain gear. All the pro fisherman I've met use there stuff. I used helly Hansen stuff surveying and it wouldn't hold up like grundens... And I was surveying the north Washington Coast so very similar to Alaska Islands.
Bring 2 sets. Preparing for a big bear is a good idea. But at the distance where you’re forced to engage, because you can’t just shoot one because it’s kinda close and you’re scared, I don’t think you’ll have any discernible difference in performance between the 7Mag and 308 if you use well constructed bullets like Partitions.
Firearms and Ammunition for Hunting in Alaska, Alaska Department of Fish and Game
I've also seen test results from multiple sources showing 200-220 gr bullets fired from 30-06 or 300 WM out performing rounds such as 338 WM, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and 45-70. Basically if you're not carrying a 375 or bigger, 30-06 is the 2nd best option.
Everything I've seen with 308 was with 180 gr bullets and it gave a lot less penetration. But I've got to think that 200's fired from a 308 would come close to, or maybe even match 30-06. Remember 300 WM and 30-06 tied with the same bullets. 308 firing the same bullets may do as well, it was just never tested.
The 7mm Rem mag wasn't tested in anything I saw either. But a 175 gr Partition has a sectional density that splits the difference between the 200 and 220 gr 30 caliber bullets and in theory should give comparable penetration.
If I were going on this hunt I'd take my SS Winchester 70 in 30-06 sitting in a McMillan stock loaded with 200 gr Partitions. With the concerns of bigger bear I'd lean toward the 7 mag in your case. But think the 308 would work too especially if you shoot it better. If I carried the 308 I might use a lighter 165 gr bullet for hunting, but also carry a few handloads with 200 gr Partitions for bear defense . Remember, the truly monster 1000-1500 lb big bear are only located near the SE coastal parts of Alaska. If you're hunting anywhere else there are still pretty aggressive grizzly, but they are much smaller.
I'd also highly recommend a handgun in 10mm or one of the magnum cartridges. The most dangerous times are when gutting a game animal and when you don't have the rifle in your hands. This is especially important on a solo hunt. An elk hunting guide was killed in Wyoming a couple of years ago while processing an elk his client had killed with a bow. He had a Glock 10mm, but took it off while cleaning the elk. The hunter was injured, but escaped.
Jackson Hole Elk Outfitter Killed by Grizzly | Realtree Camo
Worked on the Olympic peninsula for enough years to say -get the Grundens so you can enjoy your time there.
I would try to do some of the weight burning while wearing my Grundens.
Not making a joke (you can always hose them out for cleaning) as the practice will help to fit them to you.
You might also consider packing the chosen rifle with you for getting used to getting
to bringing it into action while wearing the rain gear. A bit different than wearing layered coats
Better to get familiar here than up there.
1st of all, thank you for your service to our Country.
2nd, regardless of what caliber rifle, clothing, boots, etc. you decide on, watch your backside:
Best of luck on your trip!
30-06 has plenty power, put on a clear durable optic and start practice hiking with the rifle and a full pack.
We’re using Kodiak Combos as our transporter and will be dropped for hunting off each morning and picked up each night. We’re going to be a group of 5 or 6, and will always be in groups of two or three. I already scored a decent deal on a G40 and a stainless barrel and plan on toting it, ammo TBD, (each group will have a 10mm Glock, if not each individual).
The leading contender is the 7Mag with the 175gr Partitions, I’ll keep you updated!
Any additional advice is appreciated!
Thanks again for the hearty welcome!
A chest rig for the Glock. There is no substitute. I don’t carry pistols on my hip anymore in the woods. And my hips thank me.
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