New Sig P238 Report

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MisterMike

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I picked up a new P238 a few days ago (Nitron finish, rosewood grips and night sights) and took it to the range today. I thought I'd write a quick report. First, it's a darned purty little piece of work. I typically carry Glocks and there is something a little less industrial about the little Sig. It seems nicely put together, and the appearance is alluring.

The range experience was very good, but less than perfect. First, I'll note that, in thousands of rounds through my Glocks, I have never had a single malfunction . . . zero. The little Sig wass a little more finicky, at least least through the first 120 rounds (mostly FMJ and about 20 JHPs). But let's talk about the good stuff first. After perforating the target pretty horrifically through the first box of FMJ rounds, I decided to see if I could be accurate. At close range (5-7 yards), I surprised myself, placing all but two or three of the remaining rounds within a 2" circle. This thing is amazingly accurate! . . . at least at the modest ranges for which it is intended. I do not claim to be a marksman, but the Sig made me feel like one. Double taps fall easily into place, since there is minimal muzzle flip. I'm amazed that such a small pistol can be so easy to shoot accurately.

Now the, uh, less than "perfection" thing. It's a new gun, I know. But I experienced probably 6-8 instances of the slide locking open prematurely, usually on the 3rd or 4th round into a magazine. It only happened with the Winchester FMJs and, while it's a little annoying, it's not particularly troublesome. As soon as I figured out what was happening, It was easy enough to deal with . . . simply click the slide release and continue firing . . . but it's at least a little annoying.

This seemed to diminish as the round count increased, and I know that some guns take a fair number of rounds to break in. Still, I wonder why it did this; any guesses? I did do a thorough cleaning afterward and placed a wee bit of lithium grease on the slide rails. We'll see if this problem recurs, or diminishes over time.

Anyway, it was at least a B to B+ experience. As I mentioned, the P238 is great fun to shoot . . . it's small, easy to handle and darned accurate. I'm hopeful that the problem with the slide locking open in mid-magazine will either work itself out or can be easily rectified by a gunsmith. Again, I'd appreciate any insight as to why this occurred and how I might address it. If I can figure this out, I'll raise the P238's grade to an "A."
 
Magazines. Sig has been, uh, less than optimal in tuning their production magazines for their pistols of late. The follower (or spring, rather) is knocking the slide stop into place prematurely. Other mags have followers that are too high (preventing the last round from ejecting), or too low (slide fails to lock back after last round). I just received two replacement mags from sig in today's mail, as a matter of fact, and if they actually work, I'll be really happy with the little gun; it's a fantastic execution of a great design in search of grown-up magazines, IMHO.
 
It may be the bullets that are hitting the slide stop. In my experience it is fairly common on full sized 1911s with some bullet shapes when a new slide stop is installed.

In a 380 try bullets that are more "cone" shaped. The problem can be fixed with a bit of judicious filing of the most prominent edge of the slide stop where the mag follower engages it OR just use bullets that don't cause the problem if it is the bullets.
 
I took my new Sig 238 to the range last week; used UMC ball. Worked perfectly. I need to try some other brands now, and especially hollow points.
The Sig 238 is definantly a nice little gun.
 
I got one very nice looking gun, liked the look and feel. It jammed like no other thou, put 350 rounds (fmj) through her and still did not want to work right. Ended up trading her in for a Glock 26... ugly but works. Still waiting on my CCW license to come in :cool:, last I checked it was being processed.
 
I bought a new Sig P238 Equinox a couple of weeks ago but have not had a chance to shoot it yet. I am working this weekend but have next week off and hope to runs some rounds through it. Will post update on how it functions.
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My new HD, the all stainless model. Well, almost all, the trigger was plastic so I put in one of my 416 stainless triggers. The mainspring housing is either plastic or aluminum alloy, I'll need to make a stainless replacement for that too.
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Here's mine. It shoots like a champ so far and it's really a nice carry pistol. It shoots as nice as the little taurus TCP (yes.....a great shooting 380) and it may be a bit more comfortable though it would not have to be. I find it troubling that so many folks are having trouble with this pistol. The feed angle is almost straight into the barrel, like the Bersa. How SIG screwed some of these up I have no idea, but apparently they did. Mine fortunately works great. I shot 20 hot Powerballs through it and it liked those in addition to the regular copper coated ball ammo.

Everytime I shoot hot 380 ammo through one of my pistols, it gives a great sense of confidence that I have enough pistol for most situations.
 

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I picked one up for the wife about 4 months ago.
The first 100 +/- rds. I had fail to feed ( 3 or 4)--jammed at an angle against top of chamber.
I polished the inside of the chamber with Flitz & a Dremel tool ( run on low speed)
Also polished the inside lips of the mag.
I have now fired about 400 rds. of reloads--3.8 gr. Unique w/ 4 different bullets ( 90/100gr.)including XTP----------------no more problems.----:)
 
A sure way to bypass the SIG magazine issue is to acquire mags from Metalform.
I went to the Metalform website and the only .380acp magazines offered are for the Colt Mustang. Is this the one you are using in your P238?
 
I shot my 238 today and I'm almost shocked at the 25 yard accuracy of the thing. I was picking off cans, clay pigeons, and other assorted leftovers with unbelievable ease. I'm also highly impressed with how this design is so easy to shoot VS other 380 designs. It's easier to shoot than my TCP and the sights are super (light gathering in front and standard 2-dot in rear).

I now have about 400 rounds through mine and it's been a fantastic shooter. I also noticed that one of the boxes of winchester 380 copper coated hardball were the truncated/flat nose variety. The 238 feeds all the ammo I use very well, but I was pondering whether the wadcutter-like FMJ might not be able to impart more energy into a target than the more 'pointy' types.

Anyone have any data on this or thoughts?

The more I shoot this little pistol, the more I think it may be the best carry 380 out there except for perhaps Kahr's version (which I also like very much).
 
@m2steven
I have Win 95 gr FMJ with the flat nose---not very impressive.....
also have Win WinClean shells-95 gr enclosed base--exposed flat lead nose.
Now these shells have a nasty kick---???????????????????
 
Mine was only slightly problematic in the beginning.

But I can tell all P238 owners this: the more you shoot the gun, the better it gets.

I am at rougly 750-800 rounds, and the thing just works better and better each time out. Shoot it, let it break in, and you will be rewarded by this fantastic little gun.
 
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