The Wiry Irishman
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This is going to be a little different than my other initial impressions reports. Its going to be more of just a range report, as I put the first 1000 rounds through the gun in one sitting.
Here it is, fresh out of the box:
Just a quick summary of what it is - a 5" double stack, full-dustcover 2011, bull barrel, full length guide rod, .45 ACP. For you uber gun nerds, the SVI gunbuilder printout is below.
Basically, after issues with my carry 1911, I was forced to carry my other SVI for many months. My first SVI was a beautiful piece of work and put me solidly on the 2011 bandwagon, but it was designed for HD use, and as such was massive in every possible way, with no thought given to carry convenience. It carried startlingly well, the only real issue was the 6" barrel was just a touch too long to easily stuff in my pants, but I really wanted a dedicated fullsize carry gun built for carry. This gun was it.
I've been on a non-voluntary hiatus from shooting recently partly because of budget, but mostly because of a complete lack of free time, so I decided when the gun came in, I was going to make the time to put 1000 through it right away, so I came prepared. I had a bag full of all sorts of lube, cleaners, patches, and tools, but when I pulled the pistol apart to clean and lube it during the NICS check, I found that it was squeaky clean and VERY liberally coated with slide glide, so I just put it back together. Keep that in mind through the rest of the report, as more or less I just pulled the gun straight out of the box and started shooting.
Now, on to the good stuff. This isn't my first 1000 round shooting session, and I've got a formula all worked out to do it right. Specifically:
You need a big can of reloads, a pile of magazines, a Gatorade to keep hydrated, and a Snickers because you're going to be there for a while and you want to make sure you don't get shaky if you get too far away from your last meal time.
So how'd it hold up? I was shooting at 2" bulls, 50 feet away, 50 rounds per bull. My hiatus from shooting served as further proof that marksmanship is a very perishable skill, and you need to practice hard, practice often if you want to be competent. My shooting kinda sucked a lot, so I can't comment on the accuracy of the pistol. Here's the first 250 rounds.
No malfunctions or issues at all at this point. The gun was even locking back on empty mags. For those of you not familiar with the 2011 platform, they're super finicky about lockback. Getting a 1911 slide stop to engage with a follower coming from a double stack/single feed mag seems to be quite a challenge, and since the 2011 is typically a competition platform where lockback is often disabled completely, I get the feeling that no manufacturer has really tried very hard to solve it. You usually have to do a lot of futzing and tuning and playing with different followers before you get reliable lockback, so I was pleasantly surprised.
Here's rounds 251-500. Groups are finally starting to tighten up a little bit. Still no failures.
It became clear at this point that the gun was indeed shooting an inch or two left and that I was not jerking the trigger or anything like that. It also became clear that the gun did not come with an allen wrench small enough to loosen the set screws on the Novak Tactical Adjustable sight, either. Also, around 400 rounds, lockback started to get spotty then stopped completely. The fact that it was doing it straight out of the box, with every combination of tube, follower, and basplate I had is heartening, however, and it will probably only take a little bit of spring bending and follower swapping to get it up to 100% reliability. I've already talked to Brandon at SVI about it, both now and in the past, and his given me a lot of help, tips, and tricks to get it working. I can't stress enough how excellent SVI customer service is. This is not a huge concern for me, as I only carry an extra mag out of concern for clearing malfunctions, not because I feel I'll need more than 13-15 rounds of .45.
Rounds 501-750. My shooting is still awful, the gun is still running great:
After 800 rounds of my filthy, filthy Bulleye and cast lead reloads, it was time to test carry ammo. I figure if the gun cycles carry ammo reliably in this condition:
It will cycle it in any condition. At this point the range was 15 minutes from closing, so I had to shoot fast. I went through 200 rounds of 230 grain +P HST in those 15 minutes, including time to load magazines. That's why the groups get even worse than they were before. I was shooting fast, and not taking any sort of break between mags, just dropping the empty, slamming the next one home, and continuing. It gets your arms rather fatigued after a while, especially if you've already been holding the gun up for 750 rounds before it. Still no malfunctions. Upper left bull is the last 50 rounds of reloads, the other four are HST.
By the end of that long string of HST, the frame had gotten so hot I could no longer rest my offhand thumb against it, the trigger guard was uncomfortably warm to the touch, and I'm pretty sure the slide would have given me a blister if I touched it. I had to drive home with the pistol just laying on the seat next to me, because it would have melted the foam in the case.
So long story short, I fired 1000 rounds through the gun in one sitting, totally around 3 hours or so. I started with the gun in the condition it came in, and did not add any lube throughout the process. I had no failures to feed, fire, extract, or eject. Oh yeah, and when I got it home, it looked like this:
That's not poor slide to frame fitting, that's just a huge pile of gunk. Just wait until I crack it open, though.
It gets worse.
Despite this mess, after 1000 rounds, the slide was cycling as smoothly as my well broken in Baer. The gun's smoothness when clean just defies description. The closest I can get is "like snot on glass."
Enough with the range report, lets talk about the gun.
My perspective has obviously become a little distorted, as the guns I shoot the most are my 6" SVI, a 8 3/8" .44, and a 4 pound PPC K-frame. My first thought when opening the box was "Oh wow! It's so little!" Once I picked up the gun, I was amazed at how tight and well fit it was, even better than my other SVI. Its not Les Baer bank vault levels of tight, but the fitting and attention to detail leave everything else I've had experience with in the dust.
Here's a few quick examples of what I mean. The flash on my camera made all the seams really obvious, but under normal light, its difficult to see them, and most you can't even feel running your thumb over it.
Slide to frame, extractor to frame:
Grip safety to frame. It doesn't look as good as it actually is in the picture, but I would have no trouble convincing someone that handled it that they were one part:
Mainspring housing to frame:
I was also impressed with how natural it felt in my hand. This feeling just intensified when I started shooting it. I've had plenty of guns that fit my hands very well, 1911s with flat mainspring housings and full thickness grips, Nill revolver grips, my other SVI, but I've never understood until now what people have meant when they said a gun felt like an extension of their body. This is by far the best balanced and best handling pistol I've ever come across. When I'm shooting, it doesn't even feel like I've got a pistol in my hands, my arms just feel heavier. I don't have to move it from target to target for transitions, I just have to think it there. Its fantastic.
Recoil control is also great. Obviously its a heavy gun, with a lot of forward weight, so muzzle flip is very tamed. Its not quite to the "are you sure this isn't a 9mm?" level of my 6" SVI, but shooting +P HST through it feels about the same as shooting my practice loads (4.7gr bullseye under 230gr LRN) through a regular 1911. The trigger, as is to be expected of SVI (I have their fire control parts in all my 1911s now) is without peer, crisper even than a tuned S&W revolver. I've only felt better on competition free pistols.
Here it is, fresh out of the box:
Just a quick summary of what it is - a 5" double stack, full-dustcover 2011, bull barrel, full length guide rod, .45 ACP. For you uber gun nerds, the SVI gunbuilder printout is below.
Basically, after issues with my carry 1911, I was forced to carry my other SVI for many months. My first SVI was a beautiful piece of work and put me solidly on the 2011 bandwagon, but it was designed for HD use, and as such was massive in every possible way, with no thought given to carry convenience. It carried startlingly well, the only real issue was the 6" barrel was just a touch too long to easily stuff in my pants, but I really wanted a dedicated fullsize carry gun built for carry. This gun was it.
I've been on a non-voluntary hiatus from shooting recently partly because of budget, but mostly because of a complete lack of free time, so I decided when the gun came in, I was going to make the time to put 1000 through it right away, so I came prepared. I had a bag full of all sorts of lube, cleaners, patches, and tools, but when I pulled the pistol apart to clean and lube it during the NICS check, I found that it was squeaky clean and VERY liberally coated with slide glide, so I just put it back together. Keep that in mind through the rest of the report, as more or less I just pulled the gun straight out of the box and started shooting.
Now, on to the good stuff. This isn't my first 1000 round shooting session, and I've got a formula all worked out to do it right. Specifically:
You need a big can of reloads, a pile of magazines, a Gatorade to keep hydrated, and a Snickers because you're going to be there for a while and you want to make sure you don't get shaky if you get too far away from your last meal time.
So how'd it hold up? I was shooting at 2" bulls, 50 feet away, 50 rounds per bull. My hiatus from shooting served as further proof that marksmanship is a very perishable skill, and you need to practice hard, practice often if you want to be competent. My shooting kinda sucked a lot, so I can't comment on the accuracy of the pistol. Here's the first 250 rounds.
No malfunctions or issues at all at this point. The gun was even locking back on empty mags. For those of you not familiar with the 2011 platform, they're super finicky about lockback. Getting a 1911 slide stop to engage with a follower coming from a double stack/single feed mag seems to be quite a challenge, and since the 2011 is typically a competition platform where lockback is often disabled completely, I get the feeling that no manufacturer has really tried very hard to solve it. You usually have to do a lot of futzing and tuning and playing with different followers before you get reliable lockback, so I was pleasantly surprised.
Here's rounds 251-500. Groups are finally starting to tighten up a little bit. Still no failures.
It became clear at this point that the gun was indeed shooting an inch or two left and that I was not jerking the trigger or anything like that. It also became clear that the gun did not come with an allen wrench small enough to loosen the set screws on the Novak Tactical Adjustable sight, either. Also, around 400 rounds, lockback started to get spotty then stopped completely. The fact that it was doing it straight out of the box, with every combination of tube, follower, and basplate I had is heartening, however, and it will probably only take a little bit of spring bending and follower swapping to get it up to 100% reliability. I've already talked to Brandon at SVI about it, both now and in the past, and his given me a lot of help, tips, and tricks to get it working. I can't stress enough how excellent SVI customer service is. This is not a huge concern for me, as I only carry an extra mag out of concern for clearing malfunctions, not because I feel I'll need more than 13-15 rounds of .45.
Rounds 501-750. My shooting is still awful, the gun is still running great:
After 800 rounds of my filthy, filthy Bulleye and cast lead reloads, it was time to test carry ammo. I figure if the gun cycles carry ammo reliably in this condition:
It will cycle it in any condition. At this point the range was 15 minutes from closing, so I had to shoot fast. I went through 200 rounds of 230 grain +P HST in those 15 minutes, including time to load magazines. That's why the groups get even worse than they were before. I was shooting fast, and not taking any sort of break between mags, just dropping the empty, slamming the next one home, and continuing. It gets your arms rather fatigued after a while, especially if you've already been holding the gun up for 750 rounds before it. Still no malfunctions. Upper left bull is the last 50 rounds of reloads, the other four are HST.
By the end of that long string of HST, the frame had gotten so hot I could no longer rest my offhand thumb against it, the trigger guard was uncomfortably warm to the touch, and I'm pretty sure the slide would have given me a blister if I touched it. I had to drive home with the pistol just laying on the seat next to me, because it would have melted the foam in the case.
So long story short, I fired 1000 rounds through the gun in one sitting, totally around 3 hours or so. I started with the gun in the condition it came in, and did not add any lube throughout the process. I had no failures to feed, fire, extract, or eject. Oh yeah, and when I got it home, it looked like this:
That's not poor slide to frame fitting, that's just a huge pile of gunk. Just wait until I crack it open, though.
It gets worse.
Despite this mess, after 1000 rounds, the slide was cycling as smoothly as my well broken in Baer. The gun's smoothness when clean just defies description. The closest I can get is "like snot on glass."
Enough with the range report, lets talk about the gun.
My perspective has obviously become a little distorted, as the guns I shoot the most are my 6" SVI, a 8 3/8" .44, and a 4 pound PPC K-frame. My first thought when opening the box was "Oh wow! It's so little!" Once I picked up the gun, I was amazed at how tight and well fit it was, even better than my other SVI. Its not Les Baer bank vault levels of tight, but the fitting and attention to detail leave everything else I've had experience with in the dust.
Here's a few quick examples of what I mean. The flash on my camera made all the seams really obvious, but under normal light, its difficult to see them, and most you can't even feel running your thumb over it.
Slide to frame, extractor to frame:
Grip safety to frame. It doesn't look as good as it actually is in the picture, but I would have no trouble convincing someone that handled it that they were one part:
Mainspring housing to frame:
I was also impressed with how natural it felt in my hand. This feeling just intensified when I started shooting it. I've had plenty of guns that fit my hands very well, 1911s with flat mainspring housings and full thickness grips, Nill revolver grips, my other SVI, but I've never understood until now what people have meant when they said a gun felt like an extension of their body. This is by far the best balanced and best handling pistol I've ever come across. When I'm shooting, it doesn't even feel like I've got a pistol in my hands, my arms just feel heavier. I don't have to move it from target to target for transitions, I just have to think it there. Its fantastic.
Recoil control is also great. Obviously its a heavy gun, with a lot of forward weight, so muzzle flip is very tamed. Its not quite to the "are you sure this isn't a 9mm?" level of my 6" SVI, but shooting +P HST through it feels about the same as shooting my practice loads (4.7gr bullseye under 230gr LRN) through a regular 1911. The trigger, as is to be expected of SVI (I have their fire control parts in all my 1911s now) is without peer, crisper even than a tuned S&W revolver. I've only felt better on competition free pistols.
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Damn, that's your new carry gun? Wow, congrats! 
