New York .50 + Ban

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24. "50-CALIBER WEAPON" MEANS A RIFLE CAPABLE OF FIRING A CENTER-FIRE CARTRIDGE IN 50-CALIBER OR LARGER, .50 BMG CALIBER OR LARGER, ANY OTHER VARIANT OF 50-CALIBER OR LARGER, OR ANY OTHER METRIC EQUIVALENT OF SUCH CALIBER.

Hunters & collectors, bend over and kiss your muzzle loader goodbye.

Copy this and distribute it to every hunting/blackpowder board you belong to, and then think about making a hard copy and distributing it to your hunting friends.
 
Just to add, yes it will hit BP, pistols, shotguns.... It also says that you must turn them in!

This will even make you happier, see what the VPC has to say about it. www.vpc.org
 
Hateful legislation, and I'll be writin' some folks in the NY Senate to let them know what I think, but I don't see anything there that will ban muzzleloaders.

Please point out where the bill will do this...
 
I could be wrong, but I think where it says

ANY OTHER VARIANT OF 50-CALIBER OR LARGER, OR ANY OTHER METRIC EQUIVALENT OF SUCH CALIBER.
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The use of "or" and "any" seperates these clauses from the word "center-fire" requirement earlier in the sentence, at least that's how I read it.
 
Also sounds like they could use this to ban shotguns as the slugs they can fire would cause them to fall under this. :cuss:
 
Sorry, but this proposed bill would just apply to rifles capable of firing center-fire ammo of .50 or greater. Not muzzle loaders, and not shotguns. It's still total BS, but don't make the bill out to be worse than it is.
 
Let's pick this apart a tad.


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"50-CALIBER WEAPON" MEANS:

a) A RIFLE CAPABLE OF FIRING A CENTER-FIRE CARTRIDGE IN 50-CALIBER OR LARGER, .50 BMG CALIBER OR LARGER,
c) ANY OTHER VARIANT OF 50-CALIBER OR LARGER,
OR d) ANY OTHER METRIC EQUIVALENT OF SUCH CALIBER.

I think the language could be read as ambigious enough to include any rimfire or otherwise-activated weapon (not even rifle) or even toaster, or possibly even ammunition, of or a variant of '50-caliber'.

It is poorly worded at best, and in any case, banning .50BMG is just as bad as baning the muzzleloaders.
 
ri·fle1
n.

a. A firearm with a rifled bore, designed to be fired from the shoulder.
b. An artillery piece or naval gun with such spiral grooves.

If you don't believe the antis would use this all I can say is I wish I were as trusting as you, it appears a rifled slug gun would acurately be called a rifle, using this definition it could also be successfully argued that by attaching a rifled choke tube to a shotgun it would become a rifle.
 
"50-caliber" can be taken two ways.

The 16" naval rifles on the battleships are 50 caliber weapons--50X16" long. (Their length is 50 calibers of the bore).

or, 50" diameter. As it says 50-caliber, not .50 caliber.

So....let them pass it....then thumb your nose at them. ;)
 
While I agree their intent is rifles only, I'm just pointing out that the way this is worded it would be easy for an ambitious lawyer/judge to expand this beyond its intended scope
 
While I agree their intent is rifles only, I'm just pointing out that the way this is worded it would be easy for an ambitious lawyer/judge to expand this beyond its intended scope
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Nope..its too unambiguous...

Meanwhile, our shop loses some business...

WildbigboreAlaska
 
After reading through the bill, I've found something else... am I reading this right?

35 2. Any person who transports or ships any machine-gun, 50-CALIBER
36 WEAPON, firearm silencer, assault weapon or large capacity ammunition
37 feeding device or disguised gun, or who transports or ships as merchan-
38 dise five or more firearms, is guilty of a class D felony. Any person
39 who transports or ships as merchandise any firearm, other than an
40 assault weapon, switchblade knife, gravity knife, pilum ballistic knife,
41 billy, blackjack, bludgeon, metal knuckles, Kung Fu star, chuka stick,
42 sandbag or slungshot is guilty of a class A misdemeanor.
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Transport of any firearm is a class A misdemeanor?
 
Look at the wording like others have pointed out, it is written so vaguely that if passed they could do as they pleased. I hope for all the people that live in NYS this crap doesn't get passed.
 
If you live in NY write your state Assemblyman and Senators. NY is the testing ground for the liberal agenda, so if we can defeat stuff here we have scored big for the whole country!
 
1911 owner

Although I've never heard of a single crime committed with a .50, there must have been lots and lots for the legislature to find:

that such weapons pose such an imminent threat and danger to the safety and security of the people of this state that it is necessary to ban the possession and use of such weapons.
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imminent threat and danger, my oh my. :what:
 
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