Nonresident Conceal Permit

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I'm just curious if anyone knows this. I'm a resident of Virginia, and I have been thinking about obtaining a nonresident CCP from another state. My question is, if my VA CCP was ever to expire and I choose not to renew it, will my reciprocating nonresident CCP from Florida, for example, allow me to legally carry in my state?

I'm also curious about how things work in other states.
 
There must be some official web site for your state that would explain that. In Ohio, you go to the Attorney General site on which is posted the actual agreements between the various states. The letters state essentially that Ohio will honor the concealed carry permit of a particular state so, at least in Ohio, my Virginia concealed carry permit would be valid even if my Ohio concealed carry permit expired.
 
AirForceShooter said:
My guess is NO

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Your guess would probably be wrong.


Theres nothing in the legislative code saying a resident of VA MUST have a VA resident permit in order to carry in VA.

However...
Having a permit 'issued by the state in which you are in' allows you certain exemptions, like the 1000' rule for the FGFSZA, something a non-resident permit would not grant you.
If you ever went to drop your kid off at school (legal with VA res permit) you'd be in violation of the law with a non-resident permit.

VA resident permits are so easy and quick to get... why not add it to your collection?
 
Sav .250 said:
Do a search on your question .. Information available that may answer your question. Get the facts.
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I searched, but was unable to find anything. I asked here to see if others may point me in the right directions.
 
I do not know the reason for your inquiry; I'd guess to either simplify your life or save some money. However, were I you, I would never let my home state permit expire for the reason that I am (currently!) covered my another state's non-resident permit.

What any legislature can give, said legislature can taketh away with the stroke of the governor's pen, and it strikes me that it would be easier politically to take away carry rights granted under another state's permit, than under a "domestic" permit. Were you to let your domestic permit lapse and were this to occur, you'd be SOL. Furthermore and just by the way, if you let your domestic permit lapse for any reason and your legislature someday changes the eligibility rules, you would not be covered by any grandfathering exemption that said legislature might include in such legislation for political reasons.

Bottom line - I would never let any carry permit by any jurisdiction ever lapse once granted; particularly that of my home state.

If you wish to proceed with this madness, you could check first with your state's permit granting authority. While as an administrative agency (I assume) they cannot be held to what they tell you (funny how that works), this would give you at least a starting point for your research.
 
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My question is, if my VA CCP was ever to expire and I choose not to renew it, will my reciprocating nonresident CCP from Florida, for example, allow me to legally carry in my state?
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I searched, but was unable to find anything. I asked here to see if others may point me in the right directions.
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Here are some resources to help get you started:

https://www.nraila.org/gun-laws.aspx

http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html

http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_ResidentConcealed.shtm

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/travel/

In addition, you may want to contact CCP instructors in your state.
 
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CCW licenses & plans ....

For concealed carry resources Id also check www.handgunlaw.us & maybe www.gunlawguide.com .
Id also consider looking into a pre-paid legal services plan like www.CCWsafe.com or NRA's second call.
Having access to defense atty or law firm in a post shooting or use of force incident is important. Don't get into a major hassle or jam in a unknown rural area or city where you are carrying a concealed firearm then not seek compenant legal council.
If you travel often or visit different states, learn-understand the gun laws/statues there too.
 
Kansas law does not permit a Kansas resident to carry in Kansas on another state's permit.
 
wgp said:
Kansas law does not permit a Kansas resident to carry in Kansas on another state's permit.
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We're talking about Virginia, not Kansas.

mgkdrgn said:
In general, you must have a carry license from the state you are a legal resident of to carry in that state.
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You got a cite for that buddy?

Heres the relevant laws on the matter:
'The 308 law' issuance and laws pertaining to CHPs: https://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-308
Reciprocity agreements: https://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-308.014

Namely:

§ 18.2-308.014. Reciprocity.

A. A valid concealed handgun or concealed weapon permit or license issued by another state shall authorize the holder of such permit or license who is at least 21 years of age to carry a concealed handgun in the Commonwealth, provided [...blah blah requirements for reciprocity ..]
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NOTHING about needing a VA permit as a resident of VA.

Like I stated in the 3rd(!) post, its greatest use is the GFSZA exemption.
 
tyeo098 said:
Like I stated in the 3rd(!) post, its greatest use is the GFSZA exemption.
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I'm curious about the GFSZA exemption. What is it? I tried to find it, but this was all I saw which states nothing about having to have a VA concealed handgun permit.

Possession of firearm, stun weapon, or other weapon on school property prohibited.

The exemptions set out in § 18.2-308 shall apply, mutatis mutandis, to the provisions of this section. The provisions of this section shall not apply to (i) persons who possess such weapon or weapons as a part of the school's curriculum or activities; (ii) a person possessing a knife customarily used for food preparation or service and using it for such purpose; (iii) persons who possess such weapon or weapons as a part of any program sponsored or facilitated by either the school or any organization authorized by the school to conduct its programs either on or off the school premises; (iv) any law-enforcement officer; (v) any person who possesses a knife or blade which he uses customarily in his trade; (vi) a person who possesses an unloaded firearm that is in a closed container, or a knife having a metal blade, in or upon a motor vehicle, or an unloaded shotgun or rifle in a firearms rack in or upon a motor vehicle; (vii) a person who has a valid concealed handgun permit and possesses a concealed handgun while in a motor vehicle in a parking lot, traffic circle, or other means of vehicular ingress or egress to the school; or (viii) an armed security officer, licensed pursuant to Article 4 (§ 9.1-138 et seq.) of Chapter 1 of Title 9.1, hired by a private or religious school for the protection of students and employees as authorized by such school. For the purposes of this paragraph, "weapon" includes a knife having a metal blade of three inches or longer and "closed container" includes a locked vehicle trunk.
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Also, to the others who have commented. I'm not currently planning on purposely getting rid of my state CHP, but wanted to know that if for any reason it was to expire or lapse, I would not become an instant felon by mistakenly believing my out of state CHP covered me...
 
that's because its in the GFSZA

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(A)*It shall be unlawful for any individual knowingly to possess a firearm that has moved in or that otherwise affects interstate or foreign commerce at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone.

(B)*Subparagraph (A) does not apply to the possession of a firearm—

(ii)*if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so by the State in which the school zone is located or a political subdivision of the State, and the law of the State or political subdivision requires that, before an individual obtains such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license;
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Styx said:
I'm curious about the GFSZA exemption. What is it? I tried to find it, but this was all I saw which states nothing about having to have a VA concealed handgun permit.



Also, to the others who have commented. I'm not currently planning on purposely getting rid of my state CHP, but wanted to know that if for any reason it was to expire or lapse, I would not become an instant felon by mistakenly believing my out of state CHP covered me...
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And the reason we don't call the VA state police and ask them is .....

The answer has to be at least as valid as one you get off the internet.
 
Styx said:
I'm curious about the GFSZA exemption. What is it? I tried to find it, but this was all I saw which states nothing about having to have a VA concealed handgun permit.
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The GFSZ Act is a Federal law and it overrides all State Laws.

Basically the Gun Free School Zone Act says it is a felony to carry a firearm within 1000 feet of a school zone with a few exceptions. One of those exceptions is a Valid Permit to carry issued by the State the School zone is in.

That means Carrying a firearm within 1000 feet of a school without a permit, regardless of State law, is a felony.

Here are some links.

http://www.ok2a.org/fedgfsza

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.n...al/1403564901/Atf07252013gfsza.pdf?1403564901

http://www.bluesheepdog.com/leosa-school-grounds/

http://www.metroplexchl.com/instruc...rd-on-state-and-federal-gun-free-school-zones
 
I got a non-resident CCW permit for Florida and a resident permit for Virginia. I moved out of state and my Virginia permit expired.
I moved back to Virginia and walked into the Virginia Beach coutrhouse and asked them if I could carry on my Florida permit while I was waiting for my new Virginia one. They assured me I could.
Just call the court and ask.
 
I recently acquired a Utah nonresident permit. I was required to have a CCW permit from the state I live in first (which I have for many years) and to send them a copy. My state will accept a permit from any state, so I believe that even though my state would accept the UT permit, I have to keep my local permit in order to have the UT permit. So they are stacked by requirements, and not simply replaceable.

I'm guessing similar requirements exist in most cases.
 
Be aware that some states, like Kansas, only reciprocate resident permits. I know some individuals who who wrongly think that their non-resident permits from Florida count up here, and carry illegally because of that. Non-resident permits mean nothing here in Kansas.
 
460Kodiak said:
I recently acquired a Utah nonresident permit. I was required to have a CCW permit from the state I live in first (which I have for many years) and to send them a copy. My state will accept a permit from any state, so I believe that even though my state would accept the UT permit, I have to keep my local permit in order to have the UT permit. So they are stacked by requirements, and not simply replaceable.

I'm guessing similar requirements exist in most cases.
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I'm in the process of getting a Utah nonresident permit, and yes, you have to have a CCW permit from your home state to originally get the permit, but I saw nothing about the Utah permit becoming revoked the moment your home state CCW permit expires. However, you must have a CCW issued by your home state to be issued or renew your CCW only if your state recognizes Utah's permit.
 
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