Nooby question-ammunition

[billsnogo]

What is the difference between a 9mm and 9mm luger, can any 9mm gun fire the luger 9mm?

What is the difference between .45 and .45acp?

What is the difference between any caliber with the +p?

Just be kind, I am new to anything but .357.

thanks again

 

[TarpleyG]

9mm and 9mm Luger are the same. You won't see much in 9mm Largo or 9mm Kurtz (I think there is a Kurtz)

.45 can be .45LC (long Colt) or .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol). They are not the same.

+p indicates a higher power cartridge and your gun must be capable of firing it.

Greg

 

[PO2Hammer]

Well, for a fellow Mineesotan, I'll be nice.
First I would do a google search to make sure these responses are accurate.
Mabey even buy a book.
The most common 9mm is called 9mm, 9X19, 9mm NATO, 9mm Luger, 9mm auto and some other names. Vitually all 9mm pistols sold now are chambered for the 9mm luger/NATO/auto.
The only oddballs I can think of is the 9mm largo, 9X18, 9X21 and the 9mm kurz (.380 auto).
Cartridges marked +p (i.e. .38 spl+p, 9mm+p) are loaded to higher pressures than normal and can only be used in firearms rated for +p ammo.
For instance, If you bought a 9mm Glock 17 and read in the manual that is was rated for +p ammo, you could use 9mm+p and regular 9mm ammo.
.38 spl and .38 spl+p can be used in .357Magnum revolvers and lever action rifles.
There is no difference between .45 auto and .45acp. There are not the same as .45Colt (.45LC, .45 Long Colt). The .45Colt is a revolver round. The .45acp is a pistol round.

 

[Jim Watson]

9mm usually means 9mm Parabellum = 9mm Luger = 9mm NATO = 9x19 and guns and ammo so marked are interchangeable.

Usually, not always. Not just ANY 9mm gun will necessarily fire 9mm Luger, although the non-Luger 9mms other than 9mm Kurtz (Kraut talk for .380, also 9mm Corto, 9mm Browning Short) are not as common as in the good old days of surplus pistols.

There are still some in circulation, though. A Spanish gun marked 9mm/.38 is made for 9mm Largo (9mm Bergmann-Bayard) and will shoot .38 ACP (.38 Super is really too hot for these soft guns.) A 1912 Steyr-Hahn is 9mm Steyr unless marked "08" in which case it will have been made for or converted to 9mm Luger for use by Germany.

Aren't caliber designations FUN?
There is no worldwide standard. There are limited standards connected to one company, one country, one period of time, and those are useful; but mostly you just have to learn them piece by piece.

 

[billsnogo]

Thank you all for clearing that up Just did not want to buy some ammo that would go unused.

Now the next question, is a hollow point .38 special +p a decent home defense load?

Nice to have a nice board that will guide me in the right directions

 

[dolanp]

Now the next question, is a hollow point .38 special +p a decent home defense load?

Sure but a .357 magnum can usually (if not always? I dont know) shoot .38s so you might as well load it with .357s.

 

[Lennyjoe]

Welcome aboard. No question is a dumb question here. Just want to point you to the search function for future use. Alot of questions can be answered by using the search bar.

Now the next question, is a hollow point .38 special +p a decent home defense load

Yes. I prefer the .38 special +P over the .357 in the house.

Take a look at Remington Gold Saber .38 +P rounds or Speer's new .38 round with the Gold Dot JHP bullet.

 

[Sunray]

"...buy some ammo that would go unused..." That'd give you an excellent reason to find and buy a firearm that you could use it in.
"...a decent home defense load..." Depends on where you live. What type of building, not the geography. If you ever need to shoot, the bullets can and will go right through some walls. Certainly the windows. If they hit something or somebody down the block, you're responsible for it. And using a handgun for defense, requires much greater skill than say a pump shotgun with large birdshot.

 

[Black Majik]

Agreed. .38 spl is a great round for home defense. If offers less recoil, less muzzle flash, and less noise than a full .357 magnum load.

The 9mm that is most referred to as most people said is 9x19, 9mm parabellum, 9mm NATO, 9mm Luger etc...

9x18 is also known as .380 ACP or also 9mm Kurz

9x17 is also known as 9mm Makarov.

 

[dolanp]

9x18 is also known as .380 ACP or also 9mm Kurz

9x17 is also known as 9mm Makarov.

It is the other way around actually.

 

[Black Majik]

LOL.... omg, what a brain fart.

Thanks Dolan.

 

[Working Man]

Someone correct me if I am wrong. Isn't the 454 the Magnum version
of the 45 Long Colt?

 

[Sharps Shooter]

Working Man

"Isn't the 454 the magnum version of the 45 Long Colt?"

Sort of - yes. When the .454 Casull was first brought out, it looked like a stretched .45 Long Colt with a heavy duty case. Since, they have modified it to use small rifle primers instead of the large pistol primers used for the .45 Long Colt. I think most, but not all .454 Casull revolvers can be used to fire the .45 Long Colt cartridge as well, just like a .357 Magnum revolver can be used for .38 Special cartridges.

 

[KriegHund]

The russians also use a 9x39mm in the groza i think. There is p+p and +p i believe.

 

[Working Man]

Sharps Shooter

Thanks for the info.