ForeignDude
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I may be looking at North Carolina as my next duty station. Perchance, I looked up the relevant laws regarding concealed carry. Folks, what is up with some of these regs?
"It is also a misdemeanor under North Carolina law for a person to transport or possess, off his own premises, a dangerous weapon in an area during a declared state of emergency, or in the vicinity of a riot. A concealed handgun permit does not allow a permittee to carry a weapon in these areas."
What if I end up in the middle of a riot in progress? (No smart remarks -- it happened to me in L.A., back in '92)
"By common law in North Carolina, it is unlawful for a person to arm himself with any unusual and dangerous weapon, for the purpose of terrifying others, and go about on public highways in a manner to cause terror to others. The N.C. Supreme Court has said that any gun is an unusual and dangerous weapon for purposes of this offense."
That pretty much renders open-carry a dangerous proposition. All I need is for one of the Brady kooks to catch the vapors and "sic" the cops on me.
And this one just takes the cake:
"North Carolina law also prohibits any person carrying a gun, rifle, or pistol into any assembly where a fee has been charged for admission or into any establishment where alcoholic beverages are both sold and consumed."
Which knocks out virtually all restaurants, movie theaters, symphonies, theme parks, zoos, fairs, rodeos, museums, etc.
And let's not forget these beauties:
"Even with a permit, you may not carry a concealed handgun in the following areas:
b) Any space occupied by state or federal employees;
c) A financial institution;
d) Any premises where the carrying of a concealed handgun is prohibited by
the posting of a statement by the controller of the premises;
f) Areas of assemblies, parades, funerals, or demonstrations..."
Does this mean no carry in the "unsecured" areas of an airport, since it is a "space" occupied by state and federal employees? The financial institutions prohibition is an interesting one: I'm clear that I can't carry into the bank, but what about the ATM attached to the bank?
Finally, there's no carry in state parks.
So, let me see if I got it all down. First, I can carry in my own home, although I should research that more carefully before I reach any definitive conclusions. I can also carry in bookstores and fast-food joints, unless they post a "No Guns Allowed" sign. Oh, and I can carry on the street, unless I run into a funeral or a parade, in which case I'm boned.
All these restrictions render concealed or open carry virtually a moot point, don't they?
[If you're from North Carolina, please understand that I am NOT impugning your state -- if I have offended, please forgive me.]
Talk to me, North Carolina people.
"It is also a misdemeanor under North Carolina law for a person to transport or possess, off his own premises, a dangerous weapon in an area during a declared state of emergency, or in the vicinity of a riot. A concealed handgun permit does not allow a permittee to carry a weapon in these areas."
What if I end up in the middle of a riot in progress? (No smart remarks -- it happened to me in L.A., back in '92)
"By common law in North Carolina, it is unlawful for a person to arm himself with any unusual and dangerous weapon, for the purpose of terrifying others, and go about on public highways in a manner to cause terror to others. The N.C. Supreme Court has said that any gun is an unusual and dangerous weapon for purposes of this offense."
That pretty much renders open-carry a dangerous proposition. All I need is for one of the Brady kooks to catch the vapors and "sic" the cops on me.
And this one just takes the cake:
"North Carolina law also prohibits any person carrying a gun, rifle, or pistol into any assembly where a fee has been charged for admission or into any establishment where alcoholic beverages are both sold and consumed."
Which knocks out virtually all restaurants, movie theaters, symphonies, theme parks, zoos, fairs, rodeos, museums, etc.
And let's not forget these beauties:
"Even with a permit, you may not carry a concealed handgun in the following areas:
b) Any space occupied by state or federal employees;
c) A financial institution;
d) Any premises where the carrying of a concealed handgun is prohibited by
the posting of a statement by the controller of the premises;
f) Areas of assemblies, parades, funerals, or demonstrations..."
Does this mean no carry in the "unsecured" areas of an airport, since it is a "space" occupied by state and federal employees? The financial institutions prohibition is an interesting one: I'm clear that I can't carry into the bank, but what about the ATM attached to the bank?
Finally, there's no carry in state parks.
So, let me see if I got it all down. First, I can carry in my own home, although I should research that more carefully before I reach any definitive conclusions. I can also carry in bookstores and fast-food joints, unless they post a "No Guns Allowed" sign. Oh, and I can carry on the street, unless I run into a funeral or a parade, in which case I'm boned.
All these restrictions render concealed or open carry virtually a moot point, don't they?
[If you're from North Carolina, please understand that I am NOT impugning your state -- if I have offended, please forgive me.]
Talk to me, North Carolina people.