NRA Global Interest Gets a Debate

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NRA Global Interest Gets a Debate
10/8/2004


Feature Story
by Dick Dahl

Most people think of the National Rifle Association (NRA) as a uniquely American institution. They know of its great influence over federal and state lawmakers, who often opt for the political expediency of voting the NRA's way. As a result of the NRA's power, many people are aware, American citizens possess legal weaponry to a degree that is unknown in the rest of the civilized world.

But there's a new, increasingly international, dimension to the NRA and on Tuesday, Oct. 12, the NRA's top official and an international gun-control expert will face off on pay-per-view television to talk about that subject. NRA executive president Wayne LaPierre and International Action Network on Small Arms (IANSA) director Rebecca Peters are taking part in a program, "The Great Gun Debate," in London. (Interested viewers should check with their local cable TV providers for availability and times. Information is also available at the website, www.thegundebate.com).

As head of London-based IANSA, Peters works for an organization that's dedicated to stopping the proliferation and misuse of small arms and light weapons around the world. But she's well aware, firsthand, of the NRA's influence in the U.S. She spent four years in New York City working on a gun violence prevention project at the Open Society Institute and retains vivid memories of the NRA's hold over elected officials and policymakers.

"It really is true," she says, "that in the U.S. there are politicians and policymakers who would look advocates, victims, and survivors of gun violence in the eye and say, `I know that you're right, that we should be tightening gun laws. But I'm afraid to do it.'"

Increasingly, the NRA is setting its sights on the rest of the world with an apparent goal of cowing leaders in other countries in similar fashion. The NRA has attained status as a non-government organization at the United Nations and has been sounding the alarm among its membership about UN efforts to reduce the proliferation of small arms in many parts of the world. Ignoring the bloodshed that uncontrolled arms flows are causing in many developing countries -- an estimated 500,000 people are killed each year by small arms, according to the World Health Organization -- the NRA sees it as a threat to American gun owners. As the October issue of the NRA magazine, "American Rifleman," phrases it, the UN is "preparing a binding international treaty that could transform your Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms into empty words. Because if ratified by the United States, it would instantly become domestic federal law."

The UN and IANSA are most assuredly pursuing actions to achieve regulations over small-arms proliferation, Peters says. But "the thing that the NRA sees as so threatening to them is something that most people in the world see as a completely reasonable level of regulation." IANSA and other such "civil society" organizations have been working through the UN "to try to get some international norms established," she says.

"What happens now is that one city or state or country will have tight regulations of guns and the one next door will have no regulation, and that undermines the tight regulation in the first jurisdiction," she says. "So we're trying to get countries to agree, and increasingly governments are interested in doing that. They realize that guns are a major cause of preventable injury and death and that it's possible to reduce violence by regulating the proliferation and misuse of guns."

Some of the worst problems are occurring in developing countries with minimal or nonexistent gun laws. In those places, the focus is on achieving "basic measures to make sure that guns are only in the hands of people who are legally entitled to have them, and that means there has to be some kind of threshold test so that guns don't move from those hands into the hands of people who are not entitled to have them or who are going to abuse them."

While the NRA couches its rhetoric about foreign gun regulation in terms of a threat to American gun owners, Peters believes another motivation stands behind the effort. "They're increasingly involved in the international debate because they and the gun manufacturers who back them see their economic interests threatened by the possibility of other countries getting more sensible laws."

Meanwhile, in addition to its UN efforts, the NRA is seeking to spread the word about private gun ownership to the rest of the world in other ways, Peters says. And she admits that they're having some success. "Many countries have some kind of gun organizations, usually associated with target shooting, and in recent years some of those organizations have become much more political, much more ideological, under the influence of the NRA."

Nevertheless, the NRA's beliefs about the desirability of a fully armed public are still seen as unacceptable in most of the world. "There's a cultural difference between the U.S. and many other countries," Peters says. "In the U.S., the notion of having a gun because you might feel the need to kill someone is acceptable. But in other countries there's kind of a threshold issue of good governnance--that society doesn't accept preparedness in anticipation of killing another person as a reason to own a gun."

But because of the NRA's growing interest in guns outside the borders of the U.S., Peters is seeing once sports-oriented gun organizations in other countries starting to use the same rhetoric about arming oneself in anticipation of a need to kill another person.

"We're seeing that at least the NRA's ideology is being exported around the world," she says. "So in that sense the NRA is the leader of the world gun lobby."



This article is online at http://www.jointogether.org/z/0,2522,574860,00.html
 
In the U.S., the notion of having a gun because you might feel the need to kill someone is acceptable
Where does this moron get that one from? In any jurisdiction I know of in the USA, if you "feel the need to kill someone", you're going to be spending the rest of your life behind bars - and that's if you're lucky!

:fire: :banghead: :cuss:
 
That idiot is talking about legaly justified homicide. As in shooting a rapist or murderer that is attacking you.

The anti-gun people simply believe that such force is not an individual right. They believe in "good governance", meaning that you should wait for a policeman to save you.
 
It's quite simple as Tommy Gunn put it. There are two distinct beliefs at odds here:
1. You have the right to kill another to protect your life or the lives of others
2. You don't have that right. Only the government can kill (if even them).

From opinions I've encountered, many of those living overseas in developed countries cough...Europe....cough...believe #2,and find our view abhorrent. Luckily of course, they have to violate their own beliefs if they want to force us to accept theirs.
 
"In the U.S., the notion of having a gun because you might feel the need to kill someone is acceptable

Where does this moron get that one from?"
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Hold on, Preacher. Wouldn't self defense qualify as "feeling the need to kill someone"? All this person has done is try to make people who have the audacity to try to defend themselves look like murderers.

Tim
 
Gee, I wonder what side the writer of that article is on? Sheesh! I have pay per view coupons....wonder if they are any good for this?
 
Would anyone be willing to make a copy? I live in Windsor, ON, and as such can't get American cable. I'd be glad to pay for the expenses.
 
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