Odd malfunction! Anyone else?

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El Tejon

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Today was election day here, no court and I had no meetings in the afternoon. I gave the secretaries a lame excuse and rang up my brother. MPFreeman came up to Coke Break City and we went to one of my clubs to "bust some caps" as my brother puts it.

While breaking in a new Les Baer at the steel plate, I borrowed a mag from Matt. It was an old training mag that I had given him after replacing the followers and spring.

On the last round in the mag, as steel plates were feeling my tacticality, I experienced a malfunction. Without hesitation, I quickly gripped, rolled, and attempted to fire. Nothing. Unload the gun and reload the gun when I realized the mag I held between my ring and pinky finger wasn't "right."

Yep, no follower and no spring. The follower was still wedged in the weapon, halfway into the feedramp. The spring . . . well, we didn't find it until brass call before we moved to the steel critter range.

The follower must have come loose on the last round and sent the spring skyward and then the follower slid up the ramp. Break out your THR Dictionaries, people. Look up Tejon, verb.:eek:

At least I'm making my argument for carrying first quality mags (carry Les Baers myself). Anyone else experience a malfunction such as this?
 
I've had floorplates fall off and dump the mag contents out the bottom of the gun, but never had anything escape out the top...
 
Guns malfunction!? Yeah right, quit telling fish stories again :rolleyes: ;)
 
Sir, you are unfairly maligning a noble and faithful servant - to whit, your magazine. It realized that you had just fired your last round, but considered that the rampaging, violent, felonious paper target you were shooting at was still a threat: so it sacrificed itself, firing its spring downrange to inflict as much damage as possible on your assailant, without regard for the terminal effect this would have on its own useful lifespan.

Shame on you, sir, for failing to recognize, honor and respect the self-sacrifice displayed by such a faithful companion in need!

:D
 
My guess is the Old Training mag, had the older lip design and the newer spring/follower had to much "umph" for it. Stick with good mags.....GOD! Especially in a Baer.....what were you smoking?
I had some very shmansy new plastic base plates on my PCR...
On my high caps...Wolf +5% springs...14 rnds of +P+ etc bla bla.
I was just putting on my coat to go by coffee (late night panic! Im out of coffee! :what: ) and I heard this god awful noise and felt something behind me. I was so startled by the whole thing I really still didnt know what was happening. I see 14 rnds of +P+ on the floor and my Wolf sitting neatly next to them. The base plate gave way....NO MORE PLASTIC!

Can you see this happeing while waiting in line at McDonalds :rolleyes:

Shoot well
 
PRCCW and El Tejon

I recently got a Para Ord CCW7.47 LDA.
The Gun is great (now!...after a trip back to TN)
but the Magazines (2) that came with it are useless.

The Follower literally "follows" the last cartridge out of the magazine every time when unloading a magazine by hand.
They actually never quite did it IN the Pistol (as did PRCCW), but I am confident thay eventually would.
Both Magazines - exactly the same.
It is NOT a mater of a bad piece.

Para apparently tried to squeeze an extra (the 7th) cartridge into a magazine originally intended for six, by playing with the follower (reducing the length of the skirt) and spring.
They didn't get it right.

Hey........I just realized.....>>>> "PRCCW" - "El Tejon"

My fantasy is you TOO have a CCW with those funky magazines that came with it.

I gave up on mine.
Every standard Officers Mag that I've tried (I have several various) work just fine!
 
Haven't had either of those things happen to me.....guess I haven't shot my autos enough.....:D

Although that does give a new twist to "..I'm gonna empty a mag at ya..."
 
I'd forgotten all about it, but

I had this happen years (10? 12?) ago when firing a 1911 with crappy gun store "Colt Factory Mags" (you know, the ones that come piled in a giant box for $4.95 each). The mag follower and spring wound up stuck in the action when I raked the empty mag out. The spring was hanging out the bottom. I never really paid too much attention to what caused the tejon - my friends were laughing (this was back when we'd just go shoot in an arroyo in the desert somewhere) at me - just figured it was the crappy mag. I recall that the problem was solved with the aid of a friend's Leatherman pliers (he just yanked down on the hanging spring while I jammed the slide back - took a minute or so to get it all unstuck). The gun was none the worse for the wear, and we shot at the magazine body (ha!) afterward. Gun never had this problem again.

This was about the time I started buying Wilson and Shooting Star mags for my 1911 and factory or Mec-Gar mags for everything else, and when I became a big believer in always schlepping along a range box with tools in it when I go shooting.

Nothing to worry about, given your solution to the problem. Perhaps it was God's punishment for the low voter turnout you guys experienced. You're a scapegoat, you are!
 
I had the floorplate fall out the bottom of a Para C6.45 magazine. The cartridges, spring and plate landed all over around my feet. I contacted Para, and they sent me a new mag.
 
Hey runt, how many rounds did you fire until the mag bottom fell out?

Read the same thing about the C7.45 mag in a magazine review.

I would hope my carry piece wouldn't do the same.
 
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