One less crum bum in the world.

[Pat_Rogers]

Liz,
I'm sure that you feel pain on the loss of a friend. You are not alone in the world on this- trust me on this one.
Regardless of your admittedly biased views, he did commit rape. No question about it, intercourse with a minor is Rape 3rd Degree. Do a search on the NYS CPL.
It is felony. and he committed that crime. As for the perps mother pressing charges- that is unnecessary. All that is necessary is probable cause- and that can be had by physical evidence as well as other issues- statements by the perp or the victim. The perps Mom is a non issue in this instance.
Regardless of how sweet and popular he was, he was still a felon. He got away lightly with such a short sentance, and his emotional instability only led him farther down the path to destruction.
He caused his problems. Not the cops. He tried to kill a cop- another felony- after commiting a robbery- yet another felony.
Having had felons shoot at me; having cops that i knew well killed by felons- i have no sympathy for him.
He was "georgous"?? What does that have to do with it? Popular with the ladies? So was Ted Bundy.

You need to get over this. You are obviously young, and have never seen life as it really is. He committed several felonies, the last one of which resulted in his death because he picked on someone who was willing to fight back.

This is not a great loss to society.

 

[mics357]

riprle I feel for your loss it is a shame when anyone has their life ended prematurely . I am also sure that you loved him very much but the facts are still the facts. I lost my little brother 15 yrs ago for no other reason than he stopped at a 7-11 at the wrong time, while he was buying a pack of smokes two men came in and robbed store he was shot in the head fdrom a distance of ten feet for no other reason except he was there. and i miss him very much. your friend may of had problems, I don't know if so he should have gotten the help he needed but since he repeat he decided to commit armmed robbery the took hostages, then fled the scene,then crashed ,then fired at the officer chasing him what was the officer to do . had he surrendered at anytime he would more than likely still be alive, he made very poor choices during the last moments of his life but they were his choices to make.

 

[Sean Smith]

Liz,
I'm sure that you feel pain on the loss of a friend. You are not alone in the world on this- trust me on this one.
Regardless of your admittedly biased views, he did commit rape. No question about it, intercourse with a minor is Rape 3rd Degree. Do a search on the NYS CPL.
It is felony. and he committed that crime. As for the perps mother pressing charges- that is unnecessary. All that is necessary is probable cause- and that can be had by physical evidence as well as other issues- statements by the perp or the victim. The perps Mom is a non issue in this instance.
Regardless of how sweet and popular he was, he was still a felon. He got away lightly with such a short sentance, and his emotional instability only led him farther down the path to destruction.
He caused his problems. Not the cops. He tried to kill a cop- another felony- after commiting a robbery- yet another felony.
Having had felons shoot at me; having cops that i knew well killed by felons- i have no sympathy for him.
He was "georgous"?? What does that have to do with it? Popular with the ladies? So was Ted Bundy.

You need to get over this. You are obviously young, and have never seen life as it really is. He committed several felonies, the last one of which resulted in his death because he picked on someone who was willing to fight back.

This is not a great loss to society.

Pat pretty much said it all.

I'd suggest that if an armed robber/kidnapper/attempted murderer/statutory rapist is your best friend, you need to think about how you pick friends. And if you think him being a hot guy who got chicks made his death more tragic, maybe you need to re-consider what makes a human life worth something in the first place.

 

[dasmi]

Everson's father says what Robert did was wrong; he apologized to the community and to the bank. He also said he just wishes his son could've gotten the help he needed.

Well, good, at least he didn't blame the community for his son's actions.

 

[BigG]

In a self help book I once read - might have been "How to Win Friends and Influence People," the author noted that everybody will represent himself as nice and misunderstood. John Dillinger (big news at the time of book's writing) would tell you he was a really nice guy and that people just didn't understand him.

And the women in his family would corroborate his story.

 

[Andrew Rothman]

The girl he "raped" was infact my little sister. He did not rape her at all. He had juts turned 18 two weeks before, and she was 15. They had sex. There was no RAPE about it.

Regardless of your admittedly biased views, he did commit rape. No question about it, intercourse with a minor is Rape 3rd Degree. Do a search on the NYS CPL.

You're both wrong. If he was 18 and she was 15, there was no crime. See Article 130 at http://wings.buffalo.edu/law/bclc/web/NewYork/ny3(a)(1)-.htm

Section 130.55 Sexual abuse in the third degree.

A person is guilty of sexual abuse in the third degree when he or she subjects another person to sexual contact without the latter's consent; except that in any prosecution under this section, it is an affirmative defense that (a) such other person's lack of consent was due solely to incapacity to consent by reason of being less than seventeen years old, and (b) such other person was more than fourteen years old, and (c) the defendant was less than five years older than such other person.

Sexual abuse in the third degree is a class B misdemeanor.

I suspect that Ripple is mistaken about the ages or the charges, or there was another girl involved.

 

[thorn726]

45 days for rape? Sickening. Maybe he felt bad about that too, and he was trying to get a life sentence or something.

ahh, (see post above) i knew there was something fishy about that, nobody only gets 45 days for a real rape

 

[Pat_Rogers]

I stand corrected. Clearly i have not stayed current on sex crime charges since my retirement.
However, there had to have been an underlying crime somplace for him to do some time, and come out as a sex offender (if indeed that did happen)

Nevertheless- he robbed a bank, took a hostage and went to guns with a cop.

Thanks Matt!

 

[peacefuljeffrey]

Well, Honestly, I have no idea where to start. Bobby was one of my bestfriends ever. The media only pertrays so much of the truth.

The girl he "raped" was infact my little sister. He did not rape her at all. He had juts turned 18 two weeks before, and she was 15. They had sex. There was no RAPE about it. Trust me, I would know.

Why would you know? Did you watch?

And how does she feel about this? she feels like she lost one of the most important people in her life. Bobby wasn't an outcast or anything like that. He was VERY popular, and quite the ladies man. He was gorgeous.

You say that he, as an 18-year-old adult, had sex with a 15-year-old girl. Strike one. Such a "gorgeous" guy should be able to get another adult to screw.

You know "how she feels about this" is irrelevant. If I were attacked and maimed by a vicious attacker, and from a hospital bed where I was paralyzed from the neck down, I said, "I don't want him prosecuted," who cares what I want?! The courts have to protect the public. Just because I forgive him does not mean that he is a danger to the rest of society just as he was to me, and they have a right to be protected from him.


The rest of your story is really confusing and does not clarify anything. Not only that, it doesn't ring true.

You claim that the police raided Bobby's house and roughed up him and his mother just because his sister said "f-you" to the daughter of a cop?? Do you honestly expect us to believe that? The cops would risk their careers and lives and freedom to bust into a house because of some schoolyard squabble?! You watch too many movies.

You talk about how we don't get the full story from the newspaper, but you claim that the police tried to get you and your sister put into foster care just because your mother didn't want charges pressed against Bobby (even though that's irrelevant to whether they do press charges)? Why do I get the feeling that you are not telling the whole story here? Is your mother a drug abuser or felon?

The cops locked your sister in a room at school for three hours and screamed at her to give a statement, and no one in the school could or would do anything about it? In todays' leftist schools, there was no one to scream bloody murder about the cops abusing the rights of a 15-year-old girl?? Come on.

Bobby seems to have established a pattern of being a screwup. He couldn't manage to kill himself on several attempts, and then (fortunately) he couldn't manage to shoot the cop he tried to kill. Couldn't drive a Jeep straight, hit a pole... Is there anything this numbskull could do right?


You seem like a nice girl, if a lot misguided. (As one person mentioned, why was a jackoff like this guy one of your "best friends"? PICK BETTER ONES!) The way you write, though, indicates that you need to focus more on school (but I wonder, are you out of school already?). Mispelling words like "hearse" ("hurs") and "coroner" ("correner")... that shouldn't occur if you have an adequate education.

I sympathise with a WHOLE LOT of people before I go near to sympathise with Bobby, you, your sister, his mom, dad, friends... All kinds of people who should have and could have helped him stay out of this kind of trouble. Now the story is how the system was so mean to him and the cops are so corrupt. How are so many of us able to live lives completely without cops ever shooting at us?!

I'm sorry for your loss, Liz, and I know I seem mean. I think you deserve better people to associate with, because you seem to have a good heart. I DO sympathise with you, because of that, but you need to wise-up your life decisions.

-Jeffrey

 

[R.H. Lee]

Then he went to the psyc. ward in clifton springs. they put him on a whole bunch of meds. and sent him home. I guess they thought that would help. Bobby did take his medicine, regularly.

Now here is some more stuff they don't put in the newspaper. Stuff that made it even harder to cope with. They told Bobby's family the medicine could have caused him to think irrationaly. Which he obviously did.

Could very well be another case where the pharmaceutical industry and negligent physicians get off the hook..............again.

 

[Preacherman]

Folks, I think that's enough comment. We have no way to verify the accuracy of any of the recent developments on this thread, and I don't want a slanging match developing that may hurt already-bruised feelings. I'm closing this one down.