Political Prisoner?

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Lucky

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Maybe my mindset is drifting farther away from the norms, but I'm starting to question the mores of society.

A few years ago I'd have watched a tv show like Miami Vice and never questioned that the drug smugglers were the bad guys. But now I'm looking at the big picture.

The Underground Railroad was illegal at the time. In 1920 alcohol was prohibited, only to be repealed 13 years later. In 1933 the USA passed a law to confiscate citizens' gold, and people who held out were criminals and smugglers.

So I'm having trouble seeing smugglers as bad people.


Furthermore, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote great stories in the late 1800's, and Sherlock Holmes used cocaine for its benefits, while Watson carried a revolver freely. They were free men, and they carried implements for defence and administered pharmaceuticals of their choice at their will. No-one would suggest Sherlock Holmes and Watson were bad men.

Even in the early part of the 1900's cocaine was widely available, and it was sold in stores that focused on a specific product range, say drugs, and used their efficiencies to offer the low prices. And these proprietors, as far as I can tell, never got into shoot-outs or car-bomb-wars to decide who would sell their drugs to school-children. What's more, their products were refined. Compared to today, children can get drugs more easily than alcohol, and the drugs are highly-toxic because they're made ad-hoc, as a substitute for the cocaine which is now illegal.

And the RKBA, when people had the means to defend themselves and others on-hand, logic would suggest that assaults and rapes and robberies were much lower than today, where people are mandated to be defenceless.


So when I read the following article I see a businessman doing no harm being railroaded, and wonder if maybe he's not a political prisoner?



Stupid' criminal sent to jail for 40 months

Canadian Press

Tuesday, November 28, 2006

THUNDER BAY - A Victoria resident who was arrested at the bus depot in this northwestern Ontario city with a large amount of cocaine and a submachine-gun stashed in his knapsack is going to prison.

Daniel Hagedorn, 22, was handed a federal jail term of 40 months following a hearing Monday in Superior Court.

"You did an incredibly stupid thing," Justice Patrick Smith said. "I have no idea what you were thinking."

Smith imposed a sentence of 31/2 years for trafficking in cocaine and 12 months for transferring a prohibited weapon. He gave the man credit on a two-for-one basis for so-called "dead" time.

Hagedorn was arrested May 8, 2006, at the Greyhound bus terminal after an undercover drug officer became suspicious of him.

Det. Const. James Elvish arrested him and searched his knapsack, finding five one-kilogram packages of cocaine, a Cobray submachine pistol, and 90 rounds of ammunition.
 
What about snake-heads who smuggle people to a life of near servitude?

This guy in the second article had coke and a machine pistol... hmmm? Just like the 5 and dime owner who carries a snub .38 when he goes to drop off the nights receipts and cash at the bank...?

No.

I don't even know where to respond with this... I can see what you're going towards, but a guy with a few dime bags of pot is one thing, but this guy was up to no good...

He would've gotten alot more time in the US>>>>
 
I can sort of see your point Lucky, but Sherlock Holmes and his sidekick Watson were fictional characters dreamed up by Doyle. Sherlock Holmes and Watson were no more real than Batman and Robin.
 
So I'm having trouble seeing smugglers as bad people.

"Smuggling" is a natural free-market response to artificial restrictions.

People want drugs, guns, parrots, babies, whatever... so a supply will arise to satisfy that demand.

The "War on Drugs" is doomed to failure because it addresses supply without demand. If they really wanted to "win", they'd focus on getting rid of demand. But they don't... the "War on <Whatever>" is their excuse for more laws, more money, more government.
 
Lucky, it sounds to me like you're beginning to think for yourself and abandoning the parroting back of all the propaganda most of us grew up with.

There are better examples of injustice to find on the internet than some mope who is a drug currier carrying a fully auto weapon.

It isn't a stretch to assume that he is in fact a bad guy.
 
He had coke and a gun. So what? I would imagine that line of work is very dangerous and some people wouldn't hesitate to put a bullet in his head and take it. And whats the reason for this? Because some politician knows whats better for him then he does. Get rid of the laws banning it. Prices of drugs plummet, and there is no profit in trafficking it causing former dealers to seek a more honest line of work.
 
What was he smuggling?

He was likely smuggling goods that didn't pass through England and hence able to sell at a lower price. England had lots of little economic restrictions on the colonies that pissed them off. That is a bit different from smuggling in crack cocaine.
 
So I'm having trouble seeing smugglers as bad people.
Then you haven't known any.

Most are bad people who choose to live outside the law because they want to live outside the law (not because they are "forced" to by a cruel and unyielding society).

Sure, the black market they trade in is created by the stupid laws against some drugs, but don't romanticize smugglers and other criminals just because what they are selling is unjustly illegal.



And to make the comparison between conductors on the underground railroad and drug traffickers is just wrong ... there's a BIG difference between disobeying laws that are immoral and evil and taking advantage of a black market created by an overreaching paternalistic government.



I've been an outspoken critic of Prohibition 2.0 and this foolish "war" on drugs (and the Constitution), but make no mistake about it, most involved in the drug trade are truly evil people who would murder you and your children without even a moment's remorse...they are people who would best serve humanity by being turned into grease stains.

One of the reasons I support ending the WOD and legalize the damn drugs is to take the profit away from these people ... to put a commodity that clearly large numbers of people want back into the free market where people compete with each other on price and quality, not murder each other (and innocent bystanders) over turf.
 
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