Pyrodex loads in 44 russian?How to convert 23 grains of black powder to pyrodex P?

[kletus]

A friend picked up a beautiful old revolver in 44 Russian.
The smith told him its a S&W no.3 in fine mechanical condition.
The original load is 23 grains of black powder, how many grains of pyrodex P does that equal.

 

[Ginormous]

23 grains, by VOLUME.

 

[kletus]

So we can just use a black powder measure?
Measurements are the same as black powder?

 

[Ginormous]

You got it!

But please read the Hodgdon's Pyrodex P data sheet located here for loading Pyrodex in cartridges. Pyrodex P needs to be loaded to 100% density (NO Air space) in cartridges, just like black powder, lest terrible things happen to your pistol and the more tender parts of your body.

Seriously.

 

[BHP FAN]

Triple Seven is a great BP sub,too. Better,IMHO.Same warnings apply.

 

[Ginormous]

BHP Fan is right on too, imho. Hodgdon's Triple Seven is now part of my strategic reserve stockpile, because I like it just that much. The other components are bazillions of quality brand #10 and #11 percussion caps, and of course, FFFg black powder. And I now have the powder magazine to hold it all too! Including the bourbon solvent for cleaning up afterwards.

Need a Brown Bess, or other large bore buck and ball capable smoke pole, and I am set for the zombies. Real OR imagined.

 

[kletus]

Thanks guys, anyone know if light smokeless loads are safe?
The gunsmith says he loads a 200 grain bullet with 9.5 grains of 2400 powder in his old gun
Is that safe?

 

[mykeal]

You should mention that, unlike Pyrodex, 777 is NOT volume equivalent to black powder.

777 must be reduced between 10 and 15 percent by volume to get the equivalent black powder load.

 

[Ginormous]

Triple Seven is covered in the same document I linked to in my first reply, but yeah, it's an excellent idea to make certain it's mentioned openly in the thread as well.

 

[redleg0811]

No loading a light smokeless in a NM3 is not safe. At the very least it will strech the frame, at the worst blow your gun up. I have read this and heard it from Jim Sepica.

 

[zimmerstutzen]

Skip the Pyrodex. It is more corrosive than black powder. If you want to use a substitute powder at least go with one that burns cleaner and is less corrosive. Otherwise there is no benefit to using a substitute.

 

[Oyeboten]

Why not use 3F Black Powder?...I think if you do, you'll be happy.


Grease Wad/Wafer under the Bullet greatly help for easy clean up.


What is the Revolver??