Andrew Wyatt
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tube fed is simpler, and you can shoot one , load one.
you also don't have to worry about keeping all of your ammuniton in magazines.
you also don't have to worry about keeping all of your ammuniton in magazines.
Reloading multiple shotgun shells FAST
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Tube feed is a tried and proven method and system. It works and works %99.999 of the time.
But with the bolt hold open on this gun (and no magazine induced bolt hold open) you can do the same thing. Both take lots of practice to get good with.
And for storing ammo in the magazines, it isn't much different than keeping them in belt keepers, or a pouch. You still have to get them from somewhere. Now I dont have to fumble with loading them one at a time and dropping them due to my poor dexterity. With a side saddle for keeping slucgs readily accessable, I think I can make it work.
It is a relatively new system and new to the 3 gun scene. Time will tell how well it works out. I dont get paid to do this so it really doesn't cost me any income to do this (meaning if I dont win I am not out anything other than my time and game related fees), but it is fun for me now that I have gotten into the gamer mindset and just go to play and see what areas I need to work on. I would have bought this gun even if I wasn't playing these kinds of games. Just cause it looks SO EVIL!
But with the bolt hold open on this gun (and no magazine induced bolt hold open) you can do the same thing. Both take lots of practice to get good with.
And for storing ammo in the magazines, it isn't much different than keeping them in belt keepers, or a pouch. You still have to get them from somewhere. Now I dont have to fumble with loading them one at a time and dropping them due to my poor dexterity. With a side saddle for keeping slucgs readily accessable, I think I can make it work.
It is a relatively new system and new to the 3 gun scene. Time will tell how well it works out. I dont get paid to do this so it really doesn't cost me any income to do this (meaning if I dont win I am not out anything other than my time and game related fees), but it is fun for me now that I have gotten into the gamer mindset and just go to play and see what areas I need to work on. I would have bought this gun even if I wasn't playing these kinds of games. Just cause it looks SO EVIL!
I bought one as it was very affordable, and the idea of an instantaneous 5 shell load made me weak in the knees.
I have noticed that local competitions seem to set up "Saiga unfriendly" courses, so we must have their attention and have'em worried. Things like requiring mid string shell changes (one match required loading 2 shells at a time, shoot 2, load 2 shoot 2, etc). I can't understand the mentallity, I consider the Saiga a viable choice for tac use. Not quite the same as the speed loaders other "gamers" use.
There is a natural handicap. Starting capacity. any stage of 7-10 targets can be shot without a change of any kind for tube fed shotguns.
I don't think the law is unclear at all. As I read it, the only evil feature it has is a detachable mag. No pistol grip (ewww, that makes it very dangerous), no fixed mag capacity of any amount(mag isn't fixed, its detachable), no folding stock . But that's just me. I wish others saw it that way.
It's a fun gun. While we are on the topic, could someone remind me of the settings for the gas adjustment at the front of the gun? One position is normal, one is stout but I can never remember which is which.
I have noticed that local competitions seem to set up "Saiga unfriendly" courses, so we must have their attention and have'em worried. Things like requiring mid string shell changes (one match required loading 2 shells at a time, shoot 2, load 2 shoot 2, etc). I can't understand the mentallity, I consider the Saiga a viable choice for tac use. Not quite the same as the speed loaders other "gamers" use.
There is a natural handicap. Starting capacity. any stage of 7-10 targets can be shot without a change of any kind for tube fed shotguns.
I don't think the law is unclear at all. As I read it, the only evil feature it has is a detachable mag. No pistol grip (ewww, that makes it very dangerous), no fixed mag capacity of any amount(mag isn't fixed, its detachable), no folding stock . But that's just me. I wish others saw it that way.
It's a fun gun. While we are on the topic, could someone remind me of the settings for the gas adjustment at the front of the gun? One position is normal, one is stout but I can never remember which is which.
Andrew Wyatt
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if someone made an AK/saiga matched set that had a decent safety, and good sights and i didn't live in a socialist hellhole, i'd be all over it.
the saigas need extra stuff besides the gun and ammo to work. that's a bit of a problem for me, given the role shotguns perform.
the saigas need extra stuff besides the gun and ammo to work. that's a bit of a problem for me, given the role shotguns perform.
Well Andy, thats some of the things we are working on....
How about this:
1) Ambi-safety (you loose this if you keep the side rail mount, but we'll cover that in a minute)
2) AR style flip app peep sight on the back of the receiver cover, not unlike the one Krebs is making for the AK.
3) Replacing the rear sight with a 2" rail for your aimpoint.
4) Smoothing out the trigger, and lightening it to about 4.5lbs.
5) Adding a bolt hold open that works off the mags, like the SVD has, or the commercial Saiga shotguns have on the new models. I would prefer tapping the receiver and installing the SVD style BHOD. You just bump the charging handle to the rear and it releases sending the bolt home on a live round.
We shall see how it progresses.
How about this:
1) Ambi-safety (you loose this if you keep the side rail mount, but we'll cover that in a minute)
2) AR style flip app peep sight on the back of the receiver cover, not unlike the one Krebs is making for the AK.
3) Replacing the rear sight with a 2" rail for your aimpoint.
4) Smoothing out the trigger, and lightening it to about 4.5lbs.
5) Adding a bolt hold open that works off the mags, like the SVD has, or the commercial Saiga shotguns have on the new models. I would prefer tapping the receiver and installing the SVD style BHOD. You just bump the charging handle to the rear and it releases sending the bolt home on a live round.
We shall see how it progresses.
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