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Anyone have any experience with this? I really like the look of this and would like to know if they are capable guns. I would mainly be using it for plinking and self defense. I am aware that I can buy a semi-auto for about the same price but I like this. I hope it's durable enough. I wonder if it be as reliable as the 870.
 
I was thinking about this rifle too. Atleast it should be legal here in California. I tryed but could not find any one on the internet selling them. It is based on the 7400/7600 series rifles 7400 are semi-auto and the 7600 are pump-action. It should be vary reliable no gas action to foulup. I would estimate the retail price to be the same as the other Remington rifles pump-action rifles(est 450$ to 550$). Currently uncle sammy is giving all lawenforcement agency free surplus M16/M4 rifles. This with the current suspension of the clinton gun ban will make it a hard sell. Why buy a pump when you can get full-auto or semi-auto for free or nearly the same price. This rifle will have to compete for sales with Keltec SU16, Ruger Mini14 and the generic AR15.

I think Remington is just testing the water to see if a protype is salable.
I don't expect this rifle to show up in my local gun store any time soon.
 
This with the current suspension of the clinton gun ban will make it a hard sell. Why buy a pump when you can get full-auto or semi-auto for free or nearly the same price.
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*** are you talking about??? What do you mean by "suspension of the Clinton gun ban"? There is no suspension, the law is GONE, it doesn't exist anymore.

And what do you mean about getting a full-auto for free or nearly the same price as the 7615? :scrutiny: If you can show me where I can get an M16 for free than I'd love you forever :rolleyes:. Legal, transferable full-autos are VERY expensive and you are totally misinformed on the subject.
 
The Federal government has been giving away(charging only on transfer and shipping) all kind of equipment from OV10 Bronco's used by CAL Department of Foresty for fire spoting/fighting, Blackhawk Helo's to Sacramento Co. Sheriff's Dept., to M16's Las Angeles PD and the list go's on. Uncle Sam has been down sizing the armed forces for the last 10 years. Alot of surplus equipment and property(land) has be pass down to local governments over the last few years.

On the clinton crime bill maybe I should have said repealed/phase out or something else.

My point was that this is a interesting rifle that will be a hard sell when there are clarly better options for Lawenforcement Agency and civilans.

Oh, yes one more thing during the Clinton years they would destroy most firearms by cuting them up, rather than sell them to civilans.

Nearly the same price:: I estimated that the 7615P rifle will cost as much as the current production 7600 carbines around 450$ to 550$
Why would most people buy as pump when they can get a semi-auto for almost the same price. AR15, SU16 and Mini14 are very competitive in the Defensive type/para-millatary Hi-cap rifle market right now.

Unless you are on the payroll of a lawenforcement agency
NO FREE FULL AUTO FOR YOU
 
AR15, SU16 and Mini14 are very competitive in the Defensive type/para-millatary Hi-cap rifle market right now
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Of these only the AR-15 is actually proven to any great extent as a duty weapon. And I've yet to see one for under $700.
 
I've put 10 rounds through one. Magazines insert easily and drop freely.
Feeding requires a good solid racking motion, pull the pump back then shove it forward again. The trigger is reasonable, better than a military trigger, not a target trigger.

The ghost ring and post sight is quite coarse, I wouldn't bother with the iron sights outside 50 metres. It's drilled and tapped for a weaver rail, so mounting a dot sight is an option.

It's a short barrel, so the gun is pretty loud. No recoil to speak of in .223. I want one. Unfortunately the Australia government has chosen to ban further importation as they accept AR 15 mags and all semi auto parts are prohibited imports. *sigh*.

Ken
 
I can see the appeal for a limited market segment. I am interested, but now that the Kel-Tec SU-16 and variations are out, I don't really see this idea taking off.
I would be more impressed if they would configure the .308 version to accept HK or FN mags. I really like the idea of a .308 pump action scout rifle built on the 7400 carbine. It may not be as fast as a semi, but it would be faster than a bolt gun for me.


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Radagast, from what I've heard it's not the Federal government, its just Victorian officials ruining things for the rest of the nation. Raytrade of course being located in Victoria.
 
I found a new NITB Remington 7615P on the net for sale for 699.00$!!WOW

Also ruger mini-14 have been used extensivly by varous law enforcement agencies for many years and a have proved them selves there.
 
I just want to know about that rear sight. It looks like one of the Wilson Trac-Loc jobs, but I wonder how they have mounted it. If it's a model that can just bolt onto a standard 7600 reciever, then I want one. I've got a 7600 in .35 Whelen that really needs to lose its scope and pick up a good reciever sight.
 
IIRC it is screw mounted. The 7615P sight may not work as the receiver is bASED ON A 20 gauge 870 action. The 7600 patrol rifle in .308 has a similar rear sight. I suggest you give Remington a call.


Ken
 
Thanks for the info. I see on the Remington site that they have the sight for a regular 7600. That's really neat.

To get the thread back on track, I'm suprised that the 7615 has a different reciever than the 7600. I thought that the statements on the web site about the commonalitity with the 870 just dealt with the safety location and the fact that it was pump, and a regular 7600. I know Remington used to make a .223 7600, and I had thought that the 7615 was just one of those with an AR mag well conversion. I wonder why Remington chose a different reciever for the 7615?
 
No idea, I was told it was a 20 gauge receiver, and it does appear to be a little smaller than the 7600 I've handled in the past.

Ken
 
Also ruger mini-14 have been used extensivly by varous law enforcement agencies for many years and a have proved them selves there
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Most police guns are carried often and shot little. Granted it's more proven than the SU-16 but not nearly as much as the AR-15 and the Remington 870, that this rifle is based on. Although they should be enough for police work. I was thinking more for me.
 
I have just had the chance to handle and fire 9 rounds out of a Remington 7615 Patrol rifle. The new owner only had the 9 round Bushmaster made mag for it so thats what I shot. We were using 55 grain ball ammo and shooting at 75 yards. The Wilson ghostring sights were good at that distance, although I am not fond of front bead sights, preferring the crisper post sight picture. I shot about a 4" group offhand at that range (better than the 6" group the owner shot) .
The action was not smooth like a good 870, or an old 760 pump for that matter. Maybe that is just break in for the rough parkerized finish , but I suspect the goofy plastic reciprocating bolt dust cover doesn't help! I don't see any rotating bolt head, but I might be wrong. The extractor looks pretty robust. The trigger was a gritty 7 pounds, but I guess that can be fixed.This one had a 14" stock, but I hear 13" Speedfeed stocks are available, and the thing is too heavy at 7 pounds + unloaded..The worst part was the guy paid $700+!!! If it was around $300-400 I could see this "express" grade gun, but you can get a pretty good AR clone for $700+ in a free state.
That said in Kali it certainly would be better than a Keltec SU-16 IMHO. For a rifle to ride next to an 870 in a Patrol unit for the rank and file limited trained officer it prolly makes sense, especially in liberal ,sensitive locales. :scrutiny:
 
The Outdoor Channel just had a 25 minute commercial for it. :uhoh:

Oppps, My mistake that was an episode of Shooting Gallery.

Either these guys don't know how to shoot a pump gun or the action on the 7615 is stiffer than an old Marlin Model 42. It appeared they were having trouble working the action.

While they were firing, I found the dubbed in shak-shak pump sound which was consistently out of sync extremely annoying.

Looks like a fun gun though.

The only thing I really disliked is that the forward sling swivel is mounted on the front of the forearm so it recripocates when you pump it.
 
Remington Pump Rifles

do have a reputation for being none too easy on the shuckin' arm. As for Mr. justsurvivingincalifornia, it is AGAINST THE LAW to buy, sell, posess or manufacture any fully automatic firearm made after 1986. The examples you cite are gov't to gov't transfers. The man is looking for a personal weapon. The going rate for an M-16 is anywhere between 5 and 10 thousand dollars, depending on "good deals" and variation.
 
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They are very nice rifles. A mate of mine has one - infact it's sitting in my safe right now as he is visiting from Canberra. I actually started paying one off before the import hold; any Australians have any new information on that one?

Last I heard it was going to be allowed in with a five-round mag, not that it's either here nor there, as I have several 30-rounders ready to go, I just want it inside the damn country so I can get my mitts on it already!

I have 1140 rounds of .223 I can't use yet.

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Either these guys don't know how to shoot a pump gun or the action on the 7615 is stiffer than an old Marlin Model 42. It appeared they were having trouble working the action.
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That was pretty funny. Michael Bane would rack it back and about three seconds later rack it forward. I wonder if he ever shot a pump action before or is the gun that pathetic.
 
Pump guns confuse me! I pull the trigger and it doesn't go bang.

Seriously, it was an out of the box gun and stiff, but that's not the real problemo. I've been shooting a bunch of cowboy competition lately and the '97 I use (built by Coyote Cap Gunwoks on a Chinese gun) has a much easier and slightly shorter slide sequence. In short, I got spoiled from shooting a trick gun! When I got home, I pulled a .20 gauge 870 out of the safe and took it to the range. It felt just like the .223.

My bad, and a reminder that it helps to shoot these things a bit in advance! And yeah, I'm more than happy to plug the gun, even though Remington isn't a sponsor, because I think Spaulding's right...it's an excellent issue gun for departments who don't have the time or money to overhaul their training to accomodate an issue AR-15/M-4.

Michael B

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