Remington 887 shotgun recall

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This might be old news but I just read about the latest Remington recall. The Model 887 shotgun is being recalled because many have been found to have a defect that may cause the firing pin to stick in the extended position, possibly causing a slam fire. How many recent recalls does that make for them? The R51, Model 700 rifle which I don't know if they've ever actually recalled and now this. What's happened to one of the oldest names in firearms?
 
Yes there has been a recall (or at least I believe it is defined that way) for the 700.
I don't know how much of this is poor quality (though in the case of the R51 the quality and perhaps parts of the design had horrible manufacturing quality) and how much is living with a much higher expectation due to consumer safety visibility and litigation, speed and scale of consumer communication and understandably higher expectations set by other companies that exceeds Remington's abilities to put out a safe and reliable firearm. When people note that they're not like they used to be, they may be grading on the safety and price curves of then versus now.
The 700 trigger issue likely would not have been identified, no less addressed in the 1940's and 50's. Yea, a scant few went off when the safety was set but who would know? No internet, not a newsworthy story. And the failure rate is just too low for it to be a gunstore-lore and/or a letter-writing event back in the day. But it is unacceptable and has to be dealt with in the 21st century. And I'd be curious to know if these low-end 700's, when adjusted for inflation, are just too inexpensive to build properly and safely. Especially using the outdated manufacturing techniques that Remington has clung to (yes, that is their fault).
Put another way, I'm not sure how much Remington has slipped versus others just out-executing them. And I am the last person to defend Rem. I hate when a U.S. company fails to rise up against foreign (and domestic) competition and beat them. The bar has been raised in the firearms business. Not enough if you ask me. And Remington has not kept up.
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How'd I manage to avoid OWNING one of those?

Is there any information on whether the ADs occur when the shotgun is first used vs. after extensive use? I'll stipulate that the ADs shouldn't occur AT ALL, but knowing how many rounds were fired might be diagnostically significant.
 
Is there any information on whether the ADs occur when the shotgun is first used vs. after extensive use? I'll stipulate that the ADs shouldn't occur AT ALL, but knowing how many rounds were fired might be diagnostically significant.

I couldn't find any information as to when the ADs can occur but based on the description of the problem, I'd say it could be anytime during the life of the shotgun......

"DESCRIPTION OF THE HAZARD: Remington has determined that some Remington Model 887™ shotguns manufactured between December 19, 2013 and November 24, 2014 may exhibit a defect causing the firing pin to bind in the forward position within the bolt, which can result in an unintentional discharge when chambering a live round. While Remington has the utmost confidence in the design of the 887™ shotgun, it is undertaking this recall in the interest of consumer safety."

I don't know about anyone else, but I wouldn't personally buy ANY Remington branded product right now or ever again for that matter. Remember the 17HMR ammo and Model 597 17HMR semi-auto rifle recall/buyback from about five years ago?

I think their days are numbered. I know they're not the same Remington from years ago, but many of us still associate the name with the Remington Arms Company that was founded in 1816. Their problems began after they became part of the Freedom Group, owned by Cerebus Capital Management. I've always felt that firearms manufacturing and the "bottom line is king" mindset don't mix well.
 
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