Ruger Blackhawk jammed
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I'm always amazed at the number of people that think guns just go off, by themselves...
I have to remember your line that feelings don't ignite them...
CraigC
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Well, if he left the gun in the trunk of his car, I don't know why he would be wanting to kill you.
I feel it would be prudent to suggest taking the gun to a gunsmith.
If not, YouTube is your friend. I'm going to assume that the gun is a New Model. I don't know how you got the main spring out without being able to cock the hammer. Are you talking about the coil spring that powers the hammer or the two leg trigger spring? If you can't cock the hammer, you'll have to remove the grip frame with it uncaptured. It'll be a challenge to get it back on the strut later but there's a trick for that. Once you get the five grip frame screws loose, the grip frame should come off with a little wiggling. You will see a leaf loading gate latch spring, that is what holds the trigger pin in place. You have to depress it while pushing out the trigger pin. Lots of New Model Blackhawks have scratches all over the frame from people who did not understand this. The hammer pin is held in place by one of the vertical grip frame screws. Once those two pins are out, everything else will come out easy. The transfer bar will come out with the trigger.
I feel it would be prudent to suggest taking the gun to a gunsmith.
If not, YouTube is your friend. I'm going to assume that the gun is a New Model. I don't know how you got the main spring out without being able to cock the hammer. Are you talking about the coil spring that powers the hammer or the two leg trigger spring? If you can't cock the hammer, you'll have to remove the grip frame with it uncaptured. It'll be a challenge to get it back on the strut later but there's a trick for that. Once you get the five grip frame screws loose, the grip frame should come off with a little wiggling. You will see a leaf loading gate latch spring, that is what holds the trigger pin in place. You have to depress it while pushing out the trigger pin. Lots of New Model Blackhawks have scratches all over the frame from people who did not understand this. The hammer pin is held in place by one of the vertical grip frame screws. Once those two pins are out, everything else will come out easy. The transfer bar will come out with the trigger.
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No offense intended, but considering that you've already marred the barrel I would suggest you just take it to a reputable gunsmith and let them resolve the issue. I love troubleshooting as much as anyone, but even if you're able to accurately diagnose the problem the technical skills to fix it may be above your pay grade.
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If the base pin is 'spinning' with the cylinder, then the latch is not in the detent...
Turn the gun muzzle up...Soak the base pin down with penetrant and let sit a while...Then turn frozen cylinder/base-pin slowly, tapping the base pin IN till it latches...Stock base pin should have a cutout that rides along the barrel, so it will be pretty clear when you are getting close to aligning the detent and latch...
Then try to turn the cylinder by hand with the loading gate open...Don't force it...
Keep soaking and gently working it till cylinder turns freely, and then the base pin should come out smoothly...
Base pin needs to have the cutout ride along the barrel, or the whole shebang will be cocked sideways...
Turn the gun muzzle up...Soak the base pin down with penetrant and let sit a while...Then turn frozen cylinder/base-pin slowly, tapping the base pin IN till it latches...Stock base pin should have a cutout that rides along the barrel, so it will be pretty clear when you are getting close to aligning the detent and latch...
Then try to turn the cylinder by hand with the loading gate open...Don't force it...
Keep soaking and gently working it till cylinder turns freely, and then the base pin should come out smoothly...
Base pin needs to have the cutout ride along the barrel, or the whole shebang will be cocked sideways...
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That's why I can't get pin out. Thanks.
Ordered a set of brass punches, be here Monday.
I was being facetious about him killing me. He does love to give me a hard time. been doing it for 40 years..
I don't know the last time he shot it or that it rusted in the car trunk. He retired several years ago and it's been in a night stand ever since.
He heard something in the middle of the night, was a car driving through his yard, decided to make sure he could still shoot the next day and discovered it didn't work.
He has a single six and another .22 pistol as well as shotguns and rifles, so not exactly defenseless.
Sorry I have been negligent about reporting success.......
I had to completely take it apart, to remove the transfer bar. I used a brass punch and gently tapped on the end of the main pin, was kidding myself. I ended up taking a leather glove, putting it in a vice and pounding the crap out of the pin (brass punch). Could not believe how stuck it was.
All put back together and shoots fine.
I told him " don't just oil the outside, make sure and keep that pin lubricated" I am going to give him a bottle of Hoppes 9. He loves WD-40, thinks it's a miracle, I don't know if that is what he had been putting on there or not.
I had to completely take it apart, to remove the transfer bar. I used a brass punch and gently tapped on the end of the main pin, was kidding myself. I ended up taking a leather glove, putting it in a vice and pounding the crap out of the pin (brass punch). Could not believe how stuck it was.
All put back together and shoots fine.
I told him " don't just oil the outside, make sure and keep that pin lubricated" I am going to give him a bottle of Hoppes 9. He loves WD-40, thinks it's a miracle, I don't know if that is what he had been putting on there or not.
Gave him the gun back and he went to the bedroom and came back with a H&R 939 (.22 revolver. Sidekick) in a ziplock bag
Has the grips removed and the main spring has the nylon end on it.. naturally in many fragments.
Going to order the metal one from Numrich, is there anything else I should get while I am ordering?
It is difficult to swing the cylinder out.
Has the grips removed and the main spring has the nylon end on it.. naturally in many fragments.
Going to order the metal one from Numrich, is there anything else I should get while I am ordering?
It is difficult to swing the cylinder out.
I suggest starting a new thread about the H&R 939 repair.
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Gave him the gun back and he went to the bedroom and came back with a H&R 939 (.22 revolver. Sidekick) in a ziplock bag
Has the grips removed and the main spring has the nylon end on it.. naturally in many fragments.
Going to order the metal one from Numrich, is there anything else I should get while I am ordering?
It is difficult to swing the cylinder out.
Yeah you should get him to a gun shop and have him buy something that he can abuse, and neglect while continuing to function.
I suggest a Glock 17. Sounds like he breaks everything else.
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