S&w 1917

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I was at a store today and there was a Smith & Wesson 1917 for $850. I would put the condition at maybe 75% (I'm really bad at judging it) it showed wear, the bluing was good but there was mild pitting in places and the grips were rough but were not cracked (they were wood with the S&W logo on it). I should have written the serial number, but I believe it began with 18and was maybe 5 digits long. One thing I noticed was the cylinder did not match the barrel and frame serial numbers. I live in an area where old guns are rare to find, but is this gun worth what is being asked? The guy only brought it in today so i doubt right now he will take much less. Thanks for any input, sorry for no pictures.
 
Compromises made in conditions of convenience of availability or opportunity, of course can offset long waits for something which may never come.

I have been looking for one of these, and, I am still looking...

This sounds a little high to me, given your description...and with a non matching Cylinder, or any other changes from 'Original' configuration, were you ever to offer it for sale later, chances are, that would discourage any informed prospctive buyers...or disappoint an uninformed one, if he or she later became informed.

Very nice ones, with no faults to find other than slight wear to the Blueing or a little light freckeling, do seem to be offered for about that same price occasionally, or a few hundred more as small percentages of Blueing loss, get smaller.


Seems like there are quite a few really worn and doggy ones, modified ones also, usually being offered for five or six, and appearently selling at that over a long enough period of being offered, where, for me, I would rather find a pretty darned nice one, unmessed with, with low use, and merely some Holster Wear, and spend eight-ish ( hence, I am still waiting ).

Blueing percentage is almost always less, maybe much less, than non-experts tend to think.

Original unrefinished Stocks would be smooth, lightly reddish Brown Walnut, and no Medallian...and the Revolver when retaining it's original configuration, would have a Lanyard Loop swivel on the Butt, and, the Military Number and Model No. stamped on the Butt also.

Serial Number generally will be found on the small flat under the Barrel by the Frame, where the Ejection Rod sits at rest, and, on the rear Cylinder Ring.


I do not remember right now, if the Numerals on the Butt are always the same as the Serial Number, or, were a Military Number assigned to the Revolver, but, this would be easy to check, if all three ( or at least if it, and one or two of the other locations of the Serial Number,) agree.
 
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If the grips had the S&W logo I believe they were replacements. To my knowledge those guns came with smooth wood grips with no medalians or logos.

As to value, those have been going up in value recently and are hard to find in decent condition since so many saw rough usage. The mis-matched cylinder really hurts value, though.
 
If the grips had the S&W logo I believe they were replacements. To my knowledge those guns came with smooth wood grips with no medalians or logos.

While the majority of them had smooth wood grips, I have seen quite a lot of them over time in original condition with correct S&W checkered 1/2" brass medallion grips correct to the period. I must believe some shipped with these grips. Most of those have been low-numbered ones (under, say, 40,000 - which this gun is). So I'd say it's possible they are original, depending upon seeing what type they are.

I do not remember right now, if the Numerals on the Butt are always the same as the Serial Number, or, were a Military Number assigned

The butt numbers were the s/n of the gun.

For a mis-matched gun, that's too much money. For that price, you should have a matching frame/barrel/cylinder at the minimum and correct grips on an average example.

Here's an honest, matching one you could have for $700 delivered/OTD, for example:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=513978&highlight=1917
 
I've never owned a Smith 1917 .45 caliber revolver, but I did own a Colt 1917
year's ago. Matter of fact, it was the very first .45 caliber handgun that I
owned; in 'bout 1970. If memory serves me correctly, I gave an individual
$125 cash U.S. dollars for it? I sold it several years later for more than I had
paid for it; as .45 Auto Rim cartridges had begun too get extinct, and I didn't
like using half-moon clips~! ;) :uhoh: :)
 
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