Sawed off shotgun demo videos

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Every now and then I'll read some posts about someone being interested in short barrel shotguns, and lots of times they get the "I wouldn't do that if I were you" or the "They are too much to handle and are good for nothing blah blah blah" answer. So today I decided to make some videos to show a couple of mine and demonstrate recoil and close range effectiveness. These are legally registered guns. I have a lot of fun with them and hope others will enjoy these videos. These videos are just one example of NFA shotguns, and other users may have different results. Enjoy!

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I definitly enjoyed:D .... so what your saying the the "serbu" (IIRC) would be more than manageable? I have seen some videos that make me think otherwise, NOT yours of course.
 
I have a Stoeger coach gun, and have wanted to do that for a long time. However... I'd want an Uplander in 12 gauge to replace it first.
 
00 buck, handloads with 3 drams 2Fg black powder.

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Just thought I'd throw my video in, too. :)
 
I just make sure I have a good grip on it. I kind of do a push/pull technique where I push forward on the grip and pull back on the forend, but it's not too great where it's noticable. That technique may not make sense but it works in my head and in my hands. The pushing forward of the grip helps to prepare or reduce the recoil back at me. The angle in the videos makes the guns look like they are going to smack me in the face, but there is actually a good distance there. I've never even come close to a smack. I can't understand how some guys in videos I've seen hit themselves in the face. To me, the recoil is no greater than a full length shotgun. In fact it's even a little less depending on the loads. You just have to shoot one to experience the feeling and figure what is comfortable to do.
 
Great videos!

The caveat that sissies need not apply is amusing, but when you end up with the nerve damage in your hands and wrists from years of shooting the big boomers you may find yourself posting on here in 20 years saying "I remember when I thought that was cool. I'll challenge anyone to a pgo vs full stock shoot-off..." :D

Nice patterns though! Better than I would have expected, although the range is pretty short. I wouldn't mind seeing the same shoot with the targets at about 30 feet for comparison.

If nothing else you're encouraging others down the NFA path that leads to bankruptcy and big smiles... :D


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That's probably the only "Class III" thing I would get because I wouldn't be spending a hundred dollars for a few seconds of firing time like with some kind of auto.
 
I definitly enjoyed .... so what your saying the the "serbu" (IIRC) would be more than manageable? I have seen some videos that make me think otherwise, NOT yours of course.
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Mathmatically, 12 gauge shells through a 6.5" barrel will have about as much recoil as a .454 Casull. Main difference is the Serbu weighs more, but soft, cushy grips aren't really available.

Still waiting on my Serbu. Stupid paperwork.
 
RyanM

Form 3s are taking FOREVER these days. I had one recently come back from January... now waiting on a Form 4 to get it in my safe instead of the dealer's.
 
I watched them both.The missing portion of barrel does not bother me nearly as much as much as the missing stock. If you're going to bring it up to eye level, why wouldn't you want a stock in your shoulder?
it's your thing, that's fine... but personally, I think I can shoot faster, farther, better with a full stock.
 
You make a good point with the notion that it may be easier to shoulder and point with a full stock on it, but the main reason for my pistol grips is for compactness, weight, etc. I'm just so used to shooting it like a normal shotgun that it doesn't bother me anyhow.
 
Here's another video of clay shooting with a speedfeed witness protection grip...hard to see in the compressed video but the first shot is a clean break, the second broke in the launcher and I hit the biggest chunk that was launched, the third clay was a partial hit with the clay deflecting right and was hit a second time with the forth shot....the last shot missed the remaining clay chunk as it fell to the ground...for the record I'm not much of a clay shooter and have only shot trap a few times with a best score of 20 hits
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RyanM

Form 3s are taking FOREVER these days. I had one recently come back from January... now waiting on a Form 4 to get it in my safe instead of the dealer's.
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Yeah, it really sucks. I paid for mine back in November last year, and it didn't get to my dealer in this state until Febuary! Didn't help that the seller didn't put his address on the Form 3 the first time he sent it in! Then college prevented me from completing the Form 4 until mid-May. I had hoped to make the Serbu my graduation present, but it's going to be awhile yet.

On the shoulder stock thing, the main reason for many people is that it allows the gun to be registered as an AOW. You still get hit with the $200 tax if you're manufacturing your own, but there are still benefits, like you can transport an AOW across state lines with impunity (as long as it's legal in both states).

That reminds me, does anyone know if AOW shotguns are considered to be "sawed-off shotguns" under PA state law? Sawed-off shotguns are classified as prohibited offensive weapons, with a defense being that the weapon is possessed in compliance with the NFA. Translation, you have to have the paperwork with you if you're ever shooting the gun at the range or, if you're crazy, carrying it concealed (as PA state law normally defines a "firearm" as being any pistol, an SBR, or an SBS, and PA's CCW is a concealed firearm permit).

If it's classified as a pistol, like under Federal law, that'd be nice since I wouldn't have to worry about getting a notarized copy of the Form 4 and crap.
 
Thanks for the vids, guys.

Gotta admit, I wouldn't mind a 14" barreled pump or auto with a sliding M4-style stock.

John
 
I know of a dealer in PA who has a SBS remington model 11, The gun plus stamp would only set me back 500 dollars, but i really want it.
 
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