Second Amendment to Blame?

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:fire: :banghead: FROM THE ANTI-GUNNERS AT ABC



U.S. Guns Arming Mexican Drug Gangs; Second Amendment to Blame?
Officials: More Than 90 Percent of Weapons Used by Mexico's Drug Gangs Come From the U.S.
By BRIAN ROSS and RICHARD ESPOSITO
April 22, 2008—



U.S. gun stores and gun shows are the source of more than 90 percent of the weapons being used by Mexico's ruthless drug cartels, according to U.S. and Mexican law enforcement officials.

"It's a war going on in Mexico, and these types of firearms are the weapons of war for them," said Bill Newell, the special agent in charge of the Phoenix field division of the ATF, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, which has primary law enforcement jurisdiction for investigating gun trafficking to Mexico.

"It's virtually impossible to buy a firearm in Mexico as a private citizen, so this country is where they come," said Newell.

But U.S. efforts to stop the smuggling of tens of thousands of guns to Mexico, including high-powered assault weapons, have been hampered by lenient American gun laws and the Bush administration's failure to give priority to anti-gun smuggling efforts, officials tell ABC News for a report Tuesday on ABC News' "World News With Charles Gibson."

Watch the full report on "World News With Charles Gibson" at 6:30 p.m. ET.

President Bush said today at a press conference that Mexican President Felipe Calderon again raised the issue of guns at their meeting in New Orleans.

Mexico's strict gun laws are being subverted by the easy availability of weapons in the U.S., the Mexican attorney general, Eduardo Medina-Mora Icaza, told ABC News. "The Second Amendment," said the attorney general, "is certainly not designed to arm and give fire power to organized crime abroad."

More than 3,400 people have been killed by the drug cartels in the last 15 months, 2,000 of them law enforcement officials, according to the Mexican attorney general.

U.S. and Mexican officials say they have traced most of the thousands of high-powered weapons seized from the drug cartels to gun dealers in Texas, California and Arizona.

Assault weapons made in China and Eastern Europe, resembling the AK-47, have become widely and cheaply available in the U.S. since Congress and the Bush administration refused to extend a ban on such weapons in 2004.

Under federal gun laws, gun dealers are not required to report multiple purchases of such weapons because they are classified as rifles.

"If you were to go into a gun store and buy 20 of these, there is no requirement by the gun dealer to fill out a multiple sales form," said the ATF's Newell.

The drug cartels' weapons of choice include variants of the AK-47, .50-caliber sniper rifles and a Belgian-made pistol called the "cop killer" or "mata policia" because of its ability to pierce a bulletproof vest.

"It's in high demand by your violent drug cartels, their assassins in Mexico," said Newell of the ATF. The gun can fire a high-powered round used in a rifle.

An ABC News investigation found the "mata policia" and a wide range of assault weapons prominently displayed at gun stores along the border in Texas, the state providing the most weapons to the drug cartels, according to the ATF.

Under Texas and federal law, there is no waiting period for the purchase of such weapons and no restriction on how many can be bought at a time.

U.S. officials say there is little they can do to go after licensed gun dealers because large purchases, dozens or hundreds at a time, are legal for U.S. citizens and legal immigrants with an INS green card unless a gun dealer suspects the purchase is being made for someone else.

ATF agents say legitimate gun dealers will often report suspicious activities, but that a small but significant number looks the other way.

"I have personally worked cases where gun dealers have willfully allowed hundreds of guns to leave their gun store knowing that they were going into the wrong hands," said Newell.

While the Bush administration has asked for an additional $100 million to combat drug violence on the border, only $948,000, less than one percent, has been allocated to the ATF under the White House proposal.

"We need a lot more resources," said the ATF's Newell.

"It sure shows a lack of concern on our part for this piece of the problem," said Sen. Jeff Bingaman, D-N.M., who has introduced legislation to give the ATF an additional $15 million to improve border efforts.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4695848&page=1


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It would of course be easier just to infringe on the rights of law abiding American citizens than to accept accountability for decades of failed immigration policy and poor border security. How many of these same politicians also support amnesty for illegal aliens or expect us to provide health care or college tuition for them?

Assault weapons made in China and Eastern Europe, resembling the AK-47, have become widely and cheaply available in the U.S. since Congress and the Bush administration refused to extend a ban on such weapons in 2004.

I bought my Rommie in 2004 a couple months before the AWB sunsetted for $300, shipped to my FFL. The things certainly haven't gotten any cheaper...

"If you were to go into a drugstore and buy 20 of these, there is no requirement by the gun dealer to fill out a multiple sales form," said the ATF's Newell.

What drugstore would that be? If by "drugstore" you mean a dingy meth lab in a trailer park, then perhaps. But a Value Rite or Walgreens? Not hardly. My grandpa bought his first rifle from a drug store on credit at age 11. But those days are long gone. This ATF agent knows it, too.

The drug cartels' weapons of choice include variants of the AK-47, .50-caliber rifles converted to automatic firing capability and a Belgian-made pistol called the "cop killer" or "mata policia" because of its ability to pierce a bulletproof vest.

Considering most .50 caliber rifles are bolt actions, that would be a neat trick. And if someone wants to take a Dremel tool to an $8000 Barrett solely to achieve a decrease in practical accuracy, I don't see why we'd ever frown on that from these characters. The Belgian "cop killer" has to be the FN 5.7. A nice spin, perhaps, considering the media conveniently neglected to mention that the armor piercing ammunition is illegal for civilian sale in the US.

And to think, all those millions of dollars of tax payer money goes to dishonest, manipulative, power-mongering morons like this Newell character rather than to legitimate causes--like actually forming an effective policy on illegal immigration and securing the border. I say give that $15 million to the Border Patrol and tell the ATF to get bent.
 
Yep, let's just ban guns all together. That should solve the problem.

I'm sure that those criminals who are already smuggling drugs and committing murder will simply stop using firearms because we make it illegal. I mean, after all, haven't gun control and bans on illicit drugs been highly effective up to this point.

Geeze, people really don't think before they open there mouths, do they?
 
When we start getting blamed for the Mexican problems with illegal drug,guns and immigration then it's time to shut down the fxxxxxg US-Mex border completely. Nobody in and nobody out except for deportation.
 
As one who lives in the border country I will say this article is pure B.S. According to the BATF&E this is the problem:

"I have personally worked cases where gun dealers have willfully allowed hundreds of guns to leave their gun store knowing that they were going into the wrong hands," said Newell.

And to make maters worse:

While the Bush administration has asked for an additional $100 million to combat drug violence on the border, only $948,000, less than one percent, has been allocated to the ATF under the White House proposal.

Now this isn't fair, because...

"We need a lot more resources," said the ATF's Newell.

Ah... But I see the solution...

"It sure shows a lack of concern on our part for this piece of the problem," said Sen. Jeff Bingaman, D-N.M., who has introduced legislation to give the ATF an additional $15 million to improve border efforts.

The Congress-Critters will throw more money... Your tax dollars at work... :banghead:
 
U.S. gun stores and gun shows are the source of more than 90 percent of the weapons being used by Mexico's ruthless drug cartels, according to U.S. and Mexican law enforcement officials.
As the old song, Straighten Up and Fly Right puts it, that sounds "just like a lie".

I have to go along with someone who said that we ought to get working on that... just as soon as the Mexicans start keeping their citizens and their drugs out of OUR country.
 
I saw (it was a report with video) last night on tv... naturally, when showing a firearm being shot, it of course was fully automatic; you know, the fully automatic AK-47s and M-60 machineguns that we all buy at our local Mom&Pop gunshops and Gander.
Ya just gotta love unbiased reporting!
 
You know, if the Mexican .gov doesn't like our gun laws they could always build their own fence along the border to keep 'em out. Just an idea.....
 
Mexico's strict gun laws are being subverted by the easy availability of weapons in the U.S., the Mexican attorney general, Eduardo Medina-Mora Icaza, told ABC News.
Mexico's authoritarian control laws are being subverted by the easy availability of freedom in the U.S., the Mexican attorney general, Eduardo Medina-Mora Icaza, told ABC News.
 
Our Second Amendment the problem ? Hardly .

What these corrupt Marxists are really afraid of is that maybe just maybe even though it's a huge long shot that one day enough decent citizens will exist in Mexico and they might just band together with those guns and put an end to all of this BS .

If/when the people wake up and realize they have the power to stop all of this carnage in their neighborhoods and nation they will put an end to drug Cartels and the corrupt government that allows them to exist .
 
So, in a nutshell, est 12 million illegal Mexicans have invaded America, and some of those thugs took guns back home.

And I'm supposed listen to crybabyism from the Mexican "authorities" (read: corrupt thugs) and American congressmen (read: traitors) who have encouraged and facilitated this invasion? Those Mexican's couldn't have taken any guns back home if THEY WEREN'T IN AMERICA IN THE FIRST PLACE!!
 
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