Security Products Gun Safes

[heeler]

Over the weekend i went to visit an old friend who had moved away to the country.
He bought in the early 1980's a gun safe made by a company named Security Products.
It's a really big safe that measures 72x42 and uses 1/4 plate on the walls so i guess that gets it into the real "safe" league.
The most unique thing about it is it uses a recessed key to lock it.
I had never heard of this company and pretty much figured that they,like so many gun safe builders, had fallen to the way side due to Chinese imports and the high cost of materials and labor.
However i googled them and found they actually still do exist.
www.securityproducts1.com
Does anyone here own one of these safes and if so have they held up in an attempted break in or fire??
My friends safe has not been put through this situation but he says he has never had an issue with the lock mechanism or hinges and the paint has held up to time very well as he keeps it in his shop building that is not heated or air conditioned.

I would also appreciate some input from our two safe guys on their opinions on the key lock system on these safes and the builders claims of it being virtually drill proof.
It seems like a pretty simple but well thought out alternative to those infernal electronic locks or combination locks found on everyone elses safes.
I was particularly impressed that you can get one of their 1/4 plate safes for a price of what most gun "safe" companies sell their 3/16 of an inch safes(rsc's) for.
They also make 10 gauge bodied gun "safes" as well for an affordable price.

I am not affiliated in any way what so ever with this product but just wanted to hear some feed back if that's possible.

 

[a1abdj]

I have a customer that has one of their older models. He has been very happy with it.

When he priced a new one, he decided to buy an AMSEC instead.

The one that I've seen in person has the two recessed locks. This means the door only locks in two places. Key locks also tend to pick easier than combination locks manipulate.

All in all, they aren't a bad product. At the same time, they aren't a real safe either.

 

[CB900F]

Heeler;

I've never run across one, so I really can't comment.

900F

 

[heeler]

Thanks guys.
Fwiw the Amsec BF is still in my sights.

A1abdj looking at the recessed area of my friends safe it would seem that it would be pretty hard to get picking tools up into the lock.
But i certainly am no locksmith so i dont really know.
I am not aware of how their lock up bolts operate.

 

[a1abdj]

The lock is a "plunger type", similar to how a file cabinet works. When the lock is unlocked, the part with the key lowers.

When you close the door, you push the lock upwards. This runs a hardened pin through a receiver welded to the frame of the safe.

It is a fairly secure setup. Especially considering that there isn't anything to beat or break. There are no handles, and the hinges are internal. The locks are recessed, so you can't really get to them easier.

As far as picking, most criminals aren't using picking tools. They are using bump keys. You can see more about it by doing a Youtube search.

I don't recall the particular locks on the safe that I saw...they may have been Medeco. Some locks are more secure than others, but even the Medecos have been bumped open.

 

[heeler]

Thank you for the reply sir.
Fortunately they do offer S&G combo locks with the typical five star handles and door bolts.
I may be up around Waco Texas in the next month or so and might just drop in on them and look at what they have.
It's always better to see something in person than on a web site.
Not sure what kind of lock they have but their web site does claim they are virtually pick and drill proof.
However in my year or so of researching gun safes i have become very much aware that virtually all the makers consider their products right up there with walking on water.