Seen this? Congresswoman Carolyn McCarthy is at it again, or should I say still?

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House Moves McCarthy Bill To Give FBI Access To Billions Of Your
Personal Records -- In Order To Seize Your Guns

Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
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Thursday, June 1, 2006


There she goes again!

Anti-gun zealot Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) has launched her most recent
effort to use Orwellian Big Government in order to seize your guns.
In fact, her anti-gun bill was recently reported out of a House
subcommittee.

But when you look at the list of cosponsors on this bill, you find a
"Who's Who" of the anti-gun Democratic elite: Reps. Howard Berman
(D-CA), John Conyers (D-MI), Diana DeGette (D-CO), Barney Frank
(D-MA), Zoe Lofgren (D-CA), and Pete Stark (D-CA) among others. They
are all F-rated Representatives.

HR 1415 -- the McCarthy bill -- would require states to "make
electronically available to the Attorney General records relevant to
a determination of whether a person is disqualified from possessing
or receiving a firearm under [federal law" [Section 102(c)(1)(A)].

Among other things, the bill will help FBI officials to effectively
stop thousands upon thousands of Americans from purchasing a firearm.
Already, millions of Americans have been disarmed by the Lautenberg
Gun Ban which President Bill Clinton signed in 1996.

Because of the Lautenberg ban, people who have committed very minor
offenses that include pushing, shoving or, in some cases, even
yelling at a family member have discovered that they can no longer
own a firearm for self-defense. Consider just some of the many
examples:

* A Delaware member of GOA testified in Congress as to how the
Lautenberg gun ban had disarmed him for life -- simply because he
swatted his child with an open hand on the buttocks. At the time,
this father was going through an ugly divorce, and so his estranged
wife, with the encouragement of her mother, reported the man to the
police for child abuse. After a nasty court battle, this father was
forced to accept a domestic violence misdemeanor conviction. He has
sold his firearms collection and is now disarmed for life by the
Lautenberg gun ban, simply because he spanked his child.

* In Fairfax County, Virginia, a wife (Judy) was carted off to the
police station for slightly tearing her husband's pocket -- even
though her husband refused to press charges. The husband, Tom,
states he had only called the police to get "documentation in a
custody dispute." Nevertheless, Virginia's zero-tolerance law
requires the police to press charges in such cases. For Judy to
plea-bargain to a misdemeanor and pay a minimal fine means that she
forfeits her Second Amendment rights forever because of the
Lautenberg ban.

* The Lautenberg gun ban has even slapped sons and daughters with a
lifetime gun ban, for nothing more than the slightest of infractions.
The Washington Post Magazine reports that twenty-one year old Lora
lost her temper and flung an empty water bottle and her car keys.
Unfortunately for her, the car keys landed near her mother. For
that, Lora was arrested, booked, and told she must not have any
contact with her mom for three days, even though she was still living
at home. Officer Mike Twomey, who assisted in the arrest, remarks
that "in the old days, the proper response would have been to say,
'hey, ladies, cool it.' Now, arrest is the only option."

Let's not forget, that because of the Lautenberg domestic violence
MISDEMEANOR gun ban, the "new days" means that if Lora pays a $25
fine -- just to get the issue "behind her" -- she loses her gun
rights forever.

These examples are just the tip of the iceberg.

But the anti-gun nuts in Congress are upset because many of the
states' criminal records are incomplete. As a result, the FBI does
not access all of these records when screening the background of
someone who purchases a firearm from a gun dealer.

So HR 1415 will grant millions of dollars to the states to improve
their criminal records. Specifically, the bill would send taxpayer
monies to the states so they can provide the FBI with the names of
those people who are disqualified by the Lautenberg gun ban.

Obviously, this starts with a huge computer network of felonies and
misdemeanors -- with the FBI trolling through records of bar fights
or domestic disputes to determine if you spanked your kids or yelled
at your husband and are therefore disqualified from owning a gun
under the Lautenberg amendment. Congress should be repealing the
Lautenberg gun ban, not extending it to disable even more people from
owning guns.

But the problem goes much broader than that:

* Federal law prohibits illegal aliens from owning guns [18 U.S.C.
922(g)(5)]. But, in order to identify illegal aliens, "relevant"
records could mean that the FBI would demand state tax returns of ALL
American citizens, employment records, or even library records -- all
in the name of making sure that you're not an illegal.

* And did you know that veterans who have suffered from
post-traumatic stress disorder have been deemed as mentally
"incompetent" and are prohibited from owning guns under 18 U.S.C.
922(g)(4)? Records of those instances certainly exist; and, in 1999,
the Department of Veterans Administration turned over 90,000 names of
veterans to the FBI for inclusion into the NICS background check
system.

The bottom line is this: The "Instant check" program has hardly
worked well enough to justify giving the Attorney General the right
to go on a fishing expedition through EVERY personal record on every
citizen in your state. This bill would expand the power of the
federal government in the most ridiculous of ways.

But McCarthy, who could care less about raising the debt limits in
this country, would take an already financially-overburdened
government and slap it with additional burdens, requiring millions of
dollars to be spent on tracking the personal information on millions
of law-abiding Americans. That's the "carrot" for the states:
update your records, provide them to the federal government, and get
millions of dollars in return.

Well, if the Second and Tenth Amendments were to be obeyed, the
Federal government would be prohibited from passing laws that allow
the FBI to search through the records of HONEST, LAW-ABIDING
citizens.

Never mind the fact that all this data is handled with less care than
the records of a farmer's livestock. Consider that CNSNews.com
reported last week that 25 million Social Security number records of
veterans were recently hacked. The more that our private data gets
added into government computers, the more likely we are to have our
identity compromised.

ACTION: Please contact your representative and ask him to oppose HR
1415. This is legislation that we've been able to kill in the past,
but it's important for us to rise in opposition once again.

Please forward this alert to as many as you can, so that your
friends, acquaintances and family members can also contact their
Senators and Representatives. Congressmen must hear that this
legislation is unacceptable.

To identify your Representative, as well as to send a message via
e-mail, see the Legislative Action Center at
http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm on the GOA website.

----- Pre-written letter -----

Dear Representative:

I am outraged that Rep. Carolyn McCarthy is trying to prohibit more
Americans from owning guns with her HR 1415. This bill spends
millions of dollars to further prop up the unconstitutional Brady
Law, but there is no authority for the Federal government to do this
under the Second and Tenth Amendments.

Section 102(c)(1)(A) of H.R. 1415 would allow the federal government
to troll through state misdemeanor, diversion, psychiatric, tax, and
even library records -- all for the purpose of finding new reasons to
seize guns from law-abiding Americans.

The Instant Background Check should be banned, not expanded. We
should be focusing attention on crooks, not on law-abiding citizens
like my friends, my family and me. And Congress should be repealing
the Lautenberg gun ban, not extending it to disable even more people
from owning guns. H.R. 1415 is a simply an extension of the hated
Lautenberg gun ban.

Please oppose H.R. 1415.

I would appreciate hearing whether you plan to oppose this bill. Gun
Owners of America will keep me informed about any votes on this
dangerous measure.

Sincerely,
 
I don't think it would do much good for me to forward this to my Representatives Diane Feinstein and Barbara Boxer!!!!! :banghead:
 
What was the NRA's position on the "Lautenberg ban" before it became law? Or NICS?

And besides, don't we all agree the laws should be applied equally to all? So if a few people are banned from ever owning a firearm due to spanking their child, then shouldn't parents who spank or have spanked their child be banned also?
 
My letter to my Rep:

Dear Congressman ____________,

I am writing to you to ask that you oppose HR1415, the NICS Improvement Act of 2005, introduced by Representative McCarthy.

This bill further expands the reach of the federal government into the lives of law abiding citizens by giving the FBI and other agencies the authority to troll through personal information in the name of "improving" the NICS check.

In a time of controversy over no-warrant wiretaps, identity theft, mining of personal data and other infringements of personal liberty, it is unconscienable that the House would even consider further erosion of the civil rights of Americans.

As always, your careful consiideration of this matter is appreciated.
 
For those of you who don't remember, Rep. McCarthy became a Congresswoman running on a platform solely of gun control. Her husband and son were shot by a deranged rascist on a NYC commuter train. The shooter walked up and down the train aisle reloading several times and shooting unarmed commuters, all white, until some passengers finally stopped him. Ms McCarthy doesn't seem to understand that the criminal who killed her husband and wounded her son was already in violation of numerous gun control laws that clearly did nothing to stop the carnage, but that these same laws insured that no honest citizens on the train that day could legally be armed. Had NY had concealed carry laws the incident might have been stopped much more quickly, and before many of the victims were shot. But the Congresswoman has used this tragedy to continuously push for more and more gun control, oblivious to the reality that such laws do little or nothing to deter criminals. I guess the voters of her district get what they deserve by electing her, and the rest of us have to be vigilant in stopping her insanity from reaching all of us.
 
The law was intended to protect domestic violence victims from being shot.

As someone who has had family members victims of this crime in the past and ignored by authorities until it progressed into severe beatings there is nothing wrong with preventing someone convicted of domestic VIOLENCE from owning a gun. Many a person is burried in a cemetary because of being shot by an abusive family member.

The bottom line is if you value your right to own firearms, do not put yourself in a situation where you may or will be charged.
Those going thru divorce or child custody hearings should even be more aware of what can happen due to a disgruntled spouse and act accordingly as shown by the first two examples.

Some of the types of convictions may be wrong as in the guy spanking his kid, although not enough information in the paragraph to really make that determination, but as is the case in ignoring the problem for so long, the law makers have a tendancy to go overboard with the mentality of "kill em all and let God sort them out."

Now if you've been convicted with the above law, no reason not to have your record available to all law enforcement agencies.
I believe the GOA, like the NRA at times is reading tin foil hat crap into it.
 
I agree, but ...

"Feed" sez:

"The bottom line is if you value your right to own firearms, do not put yourself in a situation where you may or will be charged.
Those going thru divorce or child custody hearings should even be more aware of what can happen due to a disgruntled spouse and act accordingly as shown by the first two examples."

Absolutely agree on being VERY careful, but ...

I went through a very unpleasant divorce from a woman that walked out on me and our three kids because she "had a right to be happy".

Then, after the judge slapped an order for child support on her, and at the urging of her girlfriends, she tried to accuse me of domestic battery to get leverage for a better settlement.

I was lucky that I live a rural county where some of the cops still care about getting the facts. The judge dismissed her complaint after investigation which included interviews with me, my neighbors and my three kids. Kind of embarassing but much better than letting myself be labeled unfairly.

The saving point foir me was the date she accused me of the violence (pushing her) was a day the kids were all off school and we were out of state on a fishing trip with receipts to prove it.

If I lived in another area or had no proof of my whereabouts I could have easily been on the receiving end of one of those misdemeanor charges and lost my right to own any guns for life.

I guess I'm saying that no matter how careful you are in these situations part of it is totally out of your hands.

And, with most domestic violence charges, you are generally treated as guilty until proven innocent by the police and courts, the laws nonwithstanding.
 
The Left has a crazed genius for punishing the wrong people. McCarthy's one more exemplar of this lunacy.

And the ultimate agenda of these crazed geniuses is to put ALL of us in straitjackets, both figuratively and literally.
 
Bluehawk wrote:

I don't think it would do much good for me to forward this to my Representatives Diane Feinstein and Barbara Boxer!!!!!

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Bluehawk:

At the moment, this proposal is in the House. Try contacting your Congress person. Feinstein and Boxer sit in the Senate. There could, of course, be similar legislation proposed there. As to contacting Feinstein and Boxer re firearms matters, you do have a problem with those two, however efforts to "keep them honest" might not be entirely wasted.

vito wrote:

For those of you who don't remember, Rep. McCarthy became a Congresswoman running on a platform solely of gun control. Her husband and son were shot by a deranged rascist on a NYC commuter train. The shooter walked up and down the train aisle reloading several times and shooting unarmed commuters, all white, until some passengers finally stopped him. Ms McCarthy doesn't seem to understand that the criminal who killed her husband and wounded her son was already in violation of numerous gun control laws that clearly did nothing to stop the carnage, but that these same laws insured that no honest citizens on the train that day could legally be armed. Had NY had concealed carry laws the incident might have been stopped much more quickly, and before many of the victims were shot. But the Congresswoman has used this tragedy to continuously push for more and more gun control, oblivious to the reality that such laws do little or nothing to deter criminals. I guess the voters of her district get what they deserve by electing her, and the rest of us have to be vigilant in stopping her insanity from reaching all of us.

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Vito:

McCarthy was elected, and continues to run on the sympathy vote. As to the rest of your comment, had any of the law abiding types on that Long Island RR train been armed, the actions of the shooter might have been contained, with much less damage having been done. As to NY having a Concealed Carry Law, they do, and have had since 1911 (The Sullivan Law), which is a significant part of the problem. The law, as it is operated, including "special provisions for NYC and some other areas", essentially bars the average law abiding citizen from obtaining a Carry Permit of any kind, especially an unrestricted permit.
 
The bottom line is if you value your right to own firearms, do not put yourself in a situation where you may or will be charged.
Only way to do that is never date, never marry ... never have children and live way out in the boonies having almost no contact with other humans.
 
Only way to do that is never date, never marry ... never have children and live way out in the boonies having almost no contact with other humans.

You know, that doesn't sound half bad...
 
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