Selling guns in California

Should gun manufacturers sell their products in California?

  • Yes, we need to give all firearms owners a chance to buy new products.

    Votes: 23 39.0%
  • No. If California requires unreasonable concessions, manufacturers shouldn't be obligated.

    Votes: 36 61.0%

  • Total voters
    59
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Anyone can afford to move. Price of a bus ticket. Hauling all their stuff into temporary local storage is cheap, too.
 
ok, like I said, whatever you need to tell yourself. Everything isnt always as black and white as you seem to think it is. And even if that was the case, are you saying the correct answer is to cut and run? I know that is what you did, but do you really view that as a victory, or a retreat to a safe area?
 
Well yes of course. If we didn't we'd be letting the anti's get what they want.

I could not see this helping us in any way.
 
well, according to you, it doesnt matter anyway, because it isnt your problem. with your attitude, you better hope it never is your problem, because your solution is to cut off the supply of legal arms into your state. that will sure show those anti gunners.
Hey! Something we agree about!

You're right. It's not my problem. I live in a free state, vote for the things that matter to me, actively campaign for the candidates who share my views, teach fence-sitters, write letters to legislators, boycot anti-gun businesses, call in to radio shows, and I have even stood up against police officers to protect my rights. That's right, I've been threatened, detained and even physically assaulted by police officers while open carrying.

You seem very interested in what the free people have done to protect their rights. What have you done?
 
Just wondering, when you defend criminals on these gun crimes, are there any other charges such as... say... robbery attached?

If you get a robber off on the gun enhancement but he is still a robber... I don't see that as much of a 2nd Amendment cause because the 2nd Amendment was not meant for criminals to use in the course of their crimes.

However, if it was like the current CA case where an innocent seller got set up and DOJ went after him for the buyer's violations, then I can definitely see your point.

Just wondering exactly what your 2nd Amendment defense consists of, counselor.
 
kermi: "ok, like I said, whatever you need to tell yourself. Everything isnt always as black and white as you seem to think it is. And even if that was the case, are you saying the correct answer is to cut and run? I know that is what you did, but do you really view that as a victory, or a retreat to a safe area?"

No, the correct answer is to keep and bear arms. That means living in a location where that is allowed, and refusing on principal to live in an area where that isn't allowed. "Cutting and running" in this situation means settling for life in an unfree land, just to make a little more gross income. Victory means settling into a free land, and making the most of it, financially and otherwise.

Hey, I know full well that a lot of people were very happy living in Stalin's Russia and Mussolini's Italy. Some of them made a lot of money. They rationalized their choice by telling themselves they were the stay-behinds, working within the system to minimize its abuses and to reform it. They were full of it.
 
notorious: "Just wondering, when you defend criminals on these gun crimes, are there any other charges such as... say... robbery attached?"

Usually.

If you get a robber off on the gun enhancement but he is still a robber... I don't see that as much of a 2nd Amendment cause because the 2nd Amendment was not meant for criminals to use in the course of their crimes.

Most gun crimes should not be crimes. Fighting the charge is a legitimate Second Amendment cause. So, arguably, is fighting a collateral charge which will result in a lifetime firearms ban. Incidentally, you do know that Adams, Franklin and others had death warrants out of England, and were convicted (in absentia) of assorted high crimes, right?

However, if it was like the current CA case where an innocent seller got set up and DOJ went after him for the buyer's violations, then I can definitely see your point.

Those cases are exceedingly rare. I don't know which case you mean.
I think I have an idea, and if it's the one I'm thinking of, the seller was VERY far from innocent. But he sure likes to talk publicly about his case. When my clients do that (against my advice), I fire them.

Just wondering exactly what your 2nd Amendment defense consists of, counselor.

Many and various aspects.
 
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