shipping 30round ar15 magazine to california

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Tell him you need a copy of his LEO credentials, a photo copy of his full ID, a copy of his drivers license as well showing the shipping address, and a letter from his commanding officer on department letterhead authorizing him to buy these magazines.

Then you can ship these to him, otherwise he is only allowed 10 rounders in accordance with CA law.
 
This situation is making the hair on the back of my neck stand up. The little man in my head is screaming "NO!".
 
Ask him "I assume you're a decent law-abiding citizen, so as a decent law-abiding citizen, what need would you have for a 30 round magazine? Are you going to Iraq sometime soon?"

Tell him that you never intended for ordinary people to get their hands on the high capacity magazines you have for sale.


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Seriously though, do a risk/reward analysis...

What are the potential benefits of conducting this sale? You might make $80 dollars or maybe $100 dollars, right? Maybe he spreads word about you and you make a few more sales?

What are the potential risks... Well you might wind up convicted of a felony just for a minor mistake, slip-up, or failure to give proper attention to some tiny detail of some obscure law or statute. Ultimate worst case scenario, you get shot by police when they try to arrest you, or you wind up in prison and become somebody's date for the prom...


Ask yourself, seriously, do the possible (and probable) gains sufficiently justify the possible risks?
 
Do you really need to make this sale? Do you really need to get caught up in CA law? Looks to me like a LEO trying to get mags off the book or maybe a non-LEO poser. Be very careful with this sale.
 
Dissasemble the mags prior to shipping them and you are covered.

We are allowed to import all the magazien parts we want, we just can't assemble them into new mags.

LEO's do not need a department letter any more, they only need valid ID (Per the new CADOJ policy)
 
I don't know the quote, but I was under the impression Mr. Ruger said 15 or 20 rounds.

I don't think I would ship them without a lot more information. If Cal DOJ issued an arrest warrant for you, it could still make your life miserable. This thread would be proof that you knew that certain laws applied.
 
I don't know the quote, but I was under the impression Mr. Ruger said 15 or 20 rounds.
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http://www.thegunzone.com/rkba/papabill.html

http://www.thegunzone.com/rkba/hicap-mags.html

I'm not Cali bashing when I say that I won't sell or ship a magazine to a LEO in any location if the serfs aren't also allowed to posses the same article. No amount of money is worth it to me to profit from the presence of such a double standard.

I'd not ship to the LEO, and I'd make sure to POLITELY and respectfully tell him exactly why. Maybe not much of a statement, but at least it'll get his attention, however briefly.
 
I would not sell anything to a LEO that I could not sell to a non-LEO.
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That's really a priceless comment.

The guy that owns Barrett Firearms - makers of, among other things, semi-automatic .50 caliber rifles will NOT deal with any part of the California government, because of California's rabidly anti-gun policies.

If John Q. Public can't buy one of his rifles, he won't sell to California police or other organizations, nor will he repair rifles that they may have bought previously.

Barrett has taken a good stand in favor of RKBA.

Why would YOU want to do less, over a couple of magazines . . . especially when residents of plenty of free states can be your customers?
 
If all comes to worse, ship to his employer (ABC Agency) and mark it attn: Officer XYZ. Make the bill of sale to his agency too. There, you're sending to a bonafide law enforcement agency.
 
As of 04-2007, CA LEOs no longer need to obtain a department letter authorizing the purchase of large capacity magazines. The LEO now only needs to show his LE indentification and the seller needs to retain a copy of it.



http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/exemptpo.php
Policy Change Regarding State Exemptions for Authorized Peace Officers
Effective immediately, peace officers who have legislative authority to carry and use firearms may, without a letter signed by the head of their agency or the agency head's designee, purchase non-rostered handguns and/or large capacity magazines. The peace officer must present a valid peace officer identification card and the dealer must retain a copy of the identification card on file. (PC 12132 & 12133). A letter is still required from the head of the agency to exempt the peace officer from the ten day waiting period. (PC 12078).
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Yeah, Justin...

I wish outta staters would **** about CA laws they know nothing about (other than vague assumptions).

That's why I don't pipe up about MD, MA, NY, etc. law.


Bill Wiese
San Jose CA
 
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