Shipping an upper to an APO address...

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I'm currently stationed in Guam and would like to build an AR while I'm out here, using a BCM upper and and a locally purchased lower, and would like to know if there would be any troubles mailing the upper to an APO address. Since you have to fill out a custom's form, would customs inspect and possibly seize my package if it contained an upper receiver? Just curious, as I don't want to chance ordering one and then having it seized by customs. Thanks.
 
All the while I was in the service in Germany, nobody ever had to fill out a customs form to send me stuff. Is this something new or Guam-specific?

An APO is a domestic post office - not a foreign destination.
 
It's my understanding that when shipped to an APO address, the mail will go as far as NY or California then it goes into military possession until delivered. So I don't see why you would need a customs form but I've had family send me packages and so far they've been told by the local post office back home that they have to fill out a customs form which raises the question of inspection of packages.
 
I actually e-mailed BCM about this and they said they would not be able to ship an upper to me due to ITAR laws. :banghead:
 
I actually e-mailed BCM about this and they said they would not be able to ship an upper to me due to ITAR laws. :banghead:
That's surprising. Manufacturers in this market are usually very accommodating to active service personnel.

Go to BCM's web site and order the upper. If their system rejects the APO address, look for a reseller. There is always ar15.com.

mbogo
 
nalioth said:
All the while I was in the service in Germany, nobody ever had to fill out a customs form to send me stuff. Is this something new or Guam-specific?

An APO is a domestic post office - not a foreign destination.

99% of APO addresses are in foreign countries. Military personnel are subject to local laws as stated in status of forces agreements., including host country customs laws, although they usually have some exemptions under the status of forces agreement. I have never been stationed overseas where a customs form was not required on any package sent to me.
 
EOD Guy said:
nalioth said:
All the while I was in the service in Germany, nobody ever had to fill out a customs form to send me stuff. Is this something new or Guam-specific?

An APO is a domestic post office - not a foreign destination.
99% of APO addresses are in foreign countries. Military personnel are subject to local laws as stated in status of forces agreements., including host country customs laws, although they usually have some exemptions under the status of forces agreement. I have never been stationed overseas where a customs form was not required on any package sent to me.
Yes, they're in foreign countries, but are considered "US territory".

I left Germany in 1992, so who knows what's been changed since.
 
All the while I was in the service in Germany, nobody ever had to fill out a customs form to send me stuff. Is this something new or Guam-specific?

An APO is a domestic post office - not a foreign destination.
That's the same as it was for me, when I was stationed in Korea. Likewise I did not need a passport to be over there or clear customs when I returned.
 
http://www.usps.com/cpim/ftp/bullet...etype:pdf site:www.usps.com/cpim/ftp/bulletin'

2.3.6 Customs Declarations—When Required
Except as provided in 2.3.7, any mailpiece weighing 16
ounces or more that is addressed to an APO, FPO, or DPO
destination ZIP Code must bear a customs declaration PS
Form 2976 or 2976-A, as shown in the “Overseas Military/
Diplomatic Mail” section of the Postal Bulletin.

2.3.7 Customs Declarations—Exceptions
The following exceptions to the customs declaration
requirement are provided for items addressed to an APO,
FPO, or DPO destination ZIP Code:

a. Known mailers are exempt from providing customs
documentation on nondutiable letters and printed
matter weighing 16 ounces or more. A known mailer
is a business mailer who enters volume mailings
through a business mail entry unit (BMEU) or other
bulk mail acceptance location, pays postage through
an advance deposit account, uses a permit imprint
for postage payment, and submits a completed postage
statement at the time of entry that certifies the
mailpieces contain no dangerous materials that are
prohibited by postal regulations.

b. All federal, state, and local government agencies
whose mailings are regarded as “Official Mail” are exempt
from providing customs documentation on mail
addressed to an APO, FPO, or DPO except for those
APOs/FPO/DPOs to which restriction “B2” applies as
required in the Restriction Legend of the “Overseas
Military/Diplomatic Mail” section of the Postal Bulletin.

c. Prepaid mail from military contractors is exempt, providing
the mailpiece is endorsed “Contents for Official
Use — Exempt from Customs Requirements.”
 
nalioth said:
Yes, they're in foreign countries, but are considered "US territory".

I'm sure the host countries would vehimently disagree. The only "US territory" in foreign countries is occupied by the US Embassy.

Did you ever look at the flags at your post headquarters. I'm sure there was a host country flag flying alongside the US flag.
 
EOD Guy said:
Did you ever look at the flags at your post headquarters. I'm sure there was a host country flag flying alongside the US flag.
The only flag that flew over our post HQs was the stars and bars. My unit (and the kasern it was on) was part of the Nuremberg military command.

The only German flags I saw on any of the US kaserns in the Nuremberg area adorned the walls of some of the soldiers.

Again, I left Germany in 1992, so things may have changed since then, or it may depend on the country and any agreements.
 
The only flag that flew over our post HQs was the stars and bars. My unit (and the kasern it was on) was part of the Nuremberg military command.

Who knew the Confederate States Army had units in Germany.
:)

Tinpig
 
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