Shooting a lot of 22's / Center fire improved immensely

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

I recall a story some years ago about an Olympic Gold Medal rifle champion, who, due to political and other factors, could only train with a Rimfire and scaled down targets.

 

[CraigC]

Exactly. They pack up and leave in frustration but vent that frustration as experts off range .

Pouting is quite common in grown men.

 

[Ole Joe Clark]

I function test my Mk II's quite often, like the other day, I had painted the front sight red so my old eyes can see it better. Then I had to go to the range and function test them both. They shot right where I pointed them, I was happy.

Have a blessed day,

Leon

 

[bannockburn]

hanno

I have a Tactical Solutions 2211 .22 conversion mounted on a Colt 1911.

So do I! Put it on an old Essex frame I had bought years ago and it works like a dream! Great for transitioning from rimfire to centerfire with my 1911s.

 

[Varminterror]

I've always read that practicing with 22's doesn't help improve your centerfire performance.

You’ve been reading the wrong folks, and somehow missing info from the right ones.

Every mentor, coach, and instructor I have had for at least 30yrs has extolled the value of practice with a 22LR, and I’ve instructed, mentored, and coached the same for almost 20 years myself. I’ve rubbed elbows with top competitors in pistol and rifle competition of several flavors, and unilaterally, they too support the value of the 22LR practice analogy - and I’ve used practice 22LR’s with demonstrable performance improvements in multiple shooting sports myself.

 

[hanno]

Hanno


So do I! Put it on an old Essex frame I had bought years ago and it works like a dream! Great for transitioning from rimfire to centerfire with my 1911s.
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Okay, you got me, yours is prettier than mine. Not a great picture but it is snowing outside so the best I can do inside.

Wish TacSol still made them.

 

[bannockburn]

hanno

Actually I think yours looks great! The Essex frame began losing its bluing shortly after I started working on it; just my handling it so much made it come off. So instead of letting it start to rust I polished the metal with steel wool and just left it in the white. Has stayed like that for probably 30 years or more! It's mostly a hodge-podge of parts inside with pieces from Colt, Springfield Armory, and King's Gun Works, along with a Videcki trigger. The grips are some of my favorites for a 1911; got them from Kim Ahrends. I believe they are Rosewood with his skip line checkering.

Came by the TacSol upper in a roundabout way. Was originally looking for a conversion kit from Marvel Precision or Advantage Arms but they never were in stock so I decided to look online. Came across the TacSol at Midway and decided then and there that I was going for it! Been very pleased with the fit and finish and with it's accuracy potential.

 

[KevininPa]

I never understood connecting one's manhood to firearms. I guess some folks need all the help they can get.

Heck, my manhood must really be tanked. I practice with CO2 guns. Some of those replicas operate quite realistically. Teaching my granddaughters safety and technique with them.

 

[KevininPa]

This is a replica of a Dan Wesson 715. It weighs as much as my Ruger Speed Six. You load the pellets in simulated bullets to load into the cylinder. They conveniently fit in my speed strips. It even comes with a speed loader.

My drill has become slightly quicker and my point shooting much better. Also have a 1911 replica. Closest I could get to my SA semis.

 

[KevininPa]

I didn't learn to shoot a handgun until I practiced Bullseye with my High Standard Victor. I bought the Ciener units for my 1911s and Browning High Power, I have fired the High Power more with the Ciener unit than I have with center fire.

Did you get your Ciener conversions directly from him or a middle man? I had read that he is not easy to deal with. One reason why I don't have one for my FEG High Power. Unfortunately, I believe he is the only one who makes them. Life is too short to have to deal with temperamental people.

 

[warnerwh]

No doubt in my mind that many people would be much better shots if they started with a .22. The ammo is cheap enough that you can fire thousands of rounds for little money. And it takes at least several thousand rounds to have significant proficiency with a handgun.

All the fundamentals you need to be proficient with a center fire can be learned with a .22.

 

[hanno]

hanno


So do I! Put it on an old Essex frame I had bought years ago and it works like a dream! Great for transitioning from rimfire to centerfire with my 1911s.
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Bannockburn,
Not trying to hijack this thread but I thought you might want to know. Even though Tactical Solutions no longer makes the 2211, they still have some 2211 fiber optic sights squirreled away. I bought a red and a green.

The front sight really did not want to come out. The screw was Loctited in but I did manage to power it out. The front sight wouldn't budge. I almost gave up because I didn't want to mar the 2211. I squirted some Kroil on it and let it soak in for a day. Repeated the next day. A punch with a nylon tip and couple good whacks with a hammer did the job with no marring at all to the conversion or sight.

Anyway, don't know if you want one for your 2211, but thought I'd let you know.

So, looking forward to next range trip to have a go.

 

[bannockburn]

hanno

Thanks for the info on the the fiber optic sights. For now I still prefer the original black on black sights but I might get a red one just to keep it around for a possible future sight change.

 

[Bottom Gun]

I learned to shoot handguns using a Colt 1911 and a .22 conversion unit. I probably shot at least 100 .22s to every round of .45 ACP. It was great practice and still is.
.22 conversion units are available for a number of centerfire pistols.

I’ve also set up a couple of my bolt action .22 rifle so they feel and point very much like my centerfire hunting rifles. I use them throughout the year to practice shooting from likely hunting positions such as sitting, offhand, shooting with crossed sticks, etc.
I’ve found by practicing like this, I fire fewer “warning” shots while hunting.

 

[LaneP]

Couldn't imagine being without a good .22 lr pistol. That was the first cartridge my four kids learned to shoot with, and for years I would take them to the range several times a year and put between 500 and 1000 rounds downrange at a minimum per trip.

 

[Danwin22]

I learned many years ago that a .22 lets you concentrate purely on the target without anticipating the recoil and muzzle blast of a centerfire.

My centerfire 9mm and .40 are for protection, the .22's are for pleasure and improving handling skills.

Being retired, the lower cost of .22 ammo is very much appreciated.