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ShotSpotter Gunfire Alert System

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How often do they find anyone just hanging out after having shot at someone? Has one of these ever been involved in an arrest and conviction that wouldn't have taken place without one being there?
 
sounds like a good idea to me and all kind of cameras to. There will be bugs to work out. I don't see how a person has a right to privacy to something the do in public.
 
Tim,
The system is good for telling the officers WHERE a shot was fired. "Respond to the area of North and Acadian. Shotspotter reports 2 gunshots fired from the rear of the house on the northeast corner of this intersection." With that sort of accuracy responding officers can go right ot the area instead of depending on citizens calling in reports with vauge info about a gunshot "somewhere" in the neighborhood. If an officer is near the location he has a better chance of getting there in time to see someone running away form the scene and apprehending them. No, it's not likly that a shooter will just blast away at someone but with Shotspotter the officers know where to go and the criminals know that if they fire a gun there's a good chance the shotspotters will pinpoint the location and in a matter of a few seconds a broadcast is going to go out to every police car in the area. They know the cameras are going to spin over to the sound of the gunfire and be vidoe taping everything within sight. That's a deterrence right there.
 
yale said:
With that sort of accuracy responding officers can go right ot the area instead of depending on citizens calling in reports with vauge info about a gunshot "somewhere" in the neighborhood.
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I totally agree. In a place like Detroit where gunfire is so common, people usually don't bother calling it in until they find a body.

If this helps get thugs who use guns illegally off the street, I see no problem (other than cost). If nothing, that helps us. The harder it is for criminals to use guns for illegal activities, the better responsible gun owners look.

As for the privacy issue... I don't get the argument. These aren't microphones that are recording everyone's conversations, and they're not taking pictures. In fact, unless you fire a gun, the system is completely ignorant.

And velojym, how is it worse than the current system? If anything the accuracy will make them less likely to have reason to search random places than they do now.

I really think other than the money factor (and that is a big one), there isn't much to worry about.
 
because of construction work, car backfires and even firecrackers
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Car backfires? Cars don't backfire anymore. Someone's quoting some old detective story.
 
It isn't the system so much as the people running it. Think 1984.

Libs run around tearing their hair and gnashing their teeth about how guns are evil (well, unless they're being wielded for their own ends), and we try to explain the error in their logic. Well... that error happens in a lot more areas than just firearms. Almost anything that is controlled, banned, or otherwise demonized is usually done so due to the actions of a few unwise individuals and not the object/material involved, or even the majority of those enjoying it.

On the "bright" side, a real tyrant needs as much local information as possible in order to put down a messy uprising. "Total Information Awareness" or something like that. Hitler woulda loved it. As would King George.
 
I don't see why you guys would be concerned unless you are the people that shoot in the air to ring in the new year. These are being put in Cities where there are no outdoor shooting ranges so you wouldn't be shooting. It's not like these can see who owns guns and who doesn't.
 
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Hitler woulda loved it. As would King George.
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You're giving the system way too much credit. It's not tracking guns, it's tracking gunshots. Huge difference. How exactly could Hitler have used it to collect all the guns? Of course, in the end he didn't need it. The sheep did it for him.

There are plenty of real things for law-abiding citizens to worry about when it comes to the 2nd Amendment, but I really can't see how this is one of them.
 
Car backfires? Cars don't backfire anymore. Someone's quoting some old detective story.
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They don't?

A guy driving an older picklup went down the road just two days ago banging away with a backfire every 1/2 minute or so. I don't know what was wrong with the vehicle, but you could smell the unburned gas as well. Hopefully he can get it fixed pronto.

Even newer cars can have computer or injector or valve problems.
 
Oh, I'm not saying it does track guns. I'm just saying that when you want to *rule* over a population, you want as much information as possible. If they thought they could get away with TSA portals on every street... how many politicians do you think would turn their noses up?
 
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If they thought they could get away with TSA portals on every street... how many politicians do you think would turn their noses up?
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I agree with that. But I guess there's no way around the risks that come with giving the government power. I mean, unless you're a true anarchist, you must believe that the police and military play a role in a well-run free society. Yet the military and the police - just like this ShotSpotter system - could be used by an out of control government looking to control its people. Hence the 2nd Amendment.
 
Ok, which one of you guys did I hear talking about this on Andrew Wilkow's show today?
 
A guy driving an older picklup went down the road just two days ago banging away with a backfire every 1/2 minute or so. I don't know what was wrong with the vehicle, but you could smell the unburned gas as well.
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LOL. Happened to me with a Volvo 144, back about 1971. Something was not quite right in the distributor, and when the car revved too high, the voltage in the capacitor got high enough for the spark to jump to ground, rather to the spark plug.

Still, the "was that a gunshot, I thought it was a backfire" business hasn't made much sense since the 1950's.
 
What ever happened to a cop on patrol?

This system seems to me to be just another way to 'police' an area from a safe bunker miles away and send the cops in to a crime scene long after the bad guys are gone, to get the police tape up and the chalk outline round the victim's body before the media shows up.
 
i hate to interject reality but its been used to corroborate stories as well as help give starting point for searching for weapons abandoned after a crime. its apparently accurate enough to tell caliber. one case i remember was a cop returned fire on a kid who had stolen the cops minibike. the kids gun vanished from crime scene but shotspotter backed up his account on number of shots etc.
 
As long as it's city,county or state doing it, no problem. If the Federal govt ever does it, then there's a problem.
 
just like this ShotSpotter system - could be used by an out of control government looking to control its people. Hence the 2nd Amendment.
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These are being put into cities, the only time you would shoot you gun is in a self defense situation and you would want the police there as fast as possible. The only people to regularly shoot guns in the city are criminals. Are you a criminal?
 
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