So it's time to trade the 1911 in on something new.

[Skinny 1950]

I had the opportunity to shoot a Dlask .45 made in Canada and found that I was better at shooting that gun than any that I own (10).
I don't know if they have a web site or not but that was a real experience in accuracy.

 

[Pilot]

My Colt 01918 WWI Repro is 100% reliable with ball and hollow points. That's as close it gets to the original. Hmmm, old design......

Send it back to SA.

 

[rellascout]

Apple realized it long ago. Ruger too. Maybe Springfield Armory as well. We'll see. They seem to be doing OK with their own business decisions, and they have a great reputation for customer service.

Have you ever worked in manufacturing? Apple is horrible example. They are charging you 3X more for the same intel based hardware as anyone else. They have enough margin to cover the issues. They have a brand name which is considered premium and people pay a huge premium to get their products. They will not fix modified products for free. Jailbreak your Iphone and call them telling them you have a problem and see if they help you for free. Take the screen off your Macbook and replace it with a higher res screen and then call them to tell them it sometimes does not work and see what they say. :banghead:

The other is that you have no ideal how it effects their profit margin. They are paying shipping most of the time both ways. They are paying for space, people and parts if you understand anything about manufacturing profit margins and running a company you would not take this stance.

Yes you might get a another sale but that next sales profit marging has been slashed heavily in order to get it in this manner. It is not effective advertising. I think the OP understands it.

 

[Zundfolge]

If you fully disclose it might not be honest but it is poor form IMHO. This customer might not pay for the repair but everyone who buys a SA in the next 60 days is. The cost for non-warranty work picked upby the manufacturer gets passed down the the customer in the form of price increases.

Except that every time they fix a gun for free that they really didn't need to and said customer tells everyone they know about it, I bet they sell enough more guns to more than offset the expense.

If it hurt them they'd stop doing it.

If I was Springfield I'd adopt a Snap-On Tools type lifetime warranty because it helps build massive brand loyalty. And that's how you do well in the long run.


Of course lets look at the OP's predicament from the other end. If they DON'T fix his gun for free (or cheap) than this is the last Springfield the OP will likely ever buy, new or used. And when people ask him "how'd you like your Springer" he'd be more likely to say " 'twas crap ... buy [insert pistol brand he ends up buying and having an good experience with]".


Also some manufacturers actually take pride in their product and want every customer (again, new or used) to have a positive experience with their product just for the sake of excellence.

Furthermore, they have a lot of work to do to make up for the bad PR they're getting over the cracking frames on XDs and XD(m)s.

 

[smitty704]

Ill tell you that I have a M&P 45c and I love it. It is great for concealing, and it is obviously a 45 ACP, which is what you said you were looking for. M&P is an excellent pistol, and I would recommend it for any and everyone!

 

[Searcher4851]

If your looking for a no frills .45 and like the 1911 frame, I'd suggest a Remington R1.
I shoot one and like it a lot. Good finish, reliable (not one ftf or fte even with lighter SWC loads), and more accurate than some of the higher priced models I've shot. (comes stock with match grade SS barrel and bushing)
I feel I got more than my money's worth on this one. JMHO

 

[MikePaiN]

I'm giving another vote for the Glock36. The G36 sets the standard for .45auto reliability, it'll shoot straight, take about any abuse you can dish out and be comfortable to carry.

 

[KevinB]

Of course lets look at the OP's predicament from the other end. If they DON'T fix his gun for free (or cheap) than this is the last Springfield the OP will likely ever buy, new or used. And when people ask him "how'd you like your Springer" he'd be more likely to say " 'twas crap ... buy [insert pistol brand he ends up buying and having an good experience with]".

I understand the point your making, but obviously I'm aware that this is not Springfield's fault. This wasn't my first SA, and I doubt it will be my last. Had I bought a new gun that failed to function that Springfield refused to fix, then I might be a little upset.

 

[Biggums]

Just picked ujp the new Ruger SR1911. Flawless funtion with over 500 rounds and very well built with all the bells and whistles at $620.

 

[Skylerbone]

It sounds like the OP has come up with a plan that involves taking THR. Springfield has some talented staff who will (hopefully) have it up and running properly (I still take my Jeep to the Jeep dealer even though the warranty expired years ago).

Let's all hope he receives satisfactory service at a reasonable price and reports back that his Springer is his favorite go-to pistol. In my opinion any other outcome is simply less desirable.

 

[psyshack]

Just call Springer and let them fix your gun. Admit to being the second or third owner. What ever,,, get it fixed. It's not a sin! You own said weapon now and understand it's issues.

Make a call and work it.