Strictest Assault Weapon Laws?
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dc2wheel
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That would be DC
Washington DC's law bans:
"all semi-automatic firearms which can be fitted with a clip or magazine containing 12 or more cartridges"
but it's not actually a state
Washington DC's law bans:
"all semi-automatic firearms which can be fitted with a clip or magazine containing 12 or more cartridges"
but it's not actually a state
armoredman
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Wash DC bans any firearm not registered in 74, and all those have to be dissassembled, and cannot even be moved from the room they are in inside the home! That's everything, rifle/pistol/shotgun/etc.....
Sam Adams
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NJ - which IS a state - bans ARs and a host of other named firearms, unless you are a member of a shooting club, were a member since before the ban, and registered your firearm. It also bans any mag over 15 rounds, so that if you sold your AR and everything assoviated with it at the time of the ban, but forgot about 1 20-round mag, you could serve 5 years in prison for it if the authorities found out about it. That's right, 5 YEARS for the possession of a metal box with a plastic- or metal-tipped spring in it!
This reminds me of when I left the PRNJ. As we passed the sign on the Delaware Memorial Bridge which said "Welcome to Delaware," I calmly turned to my wife and said "Now you won't have to bail me out of jail." I got the expected bug-eyes and open jaw, followed quickly by "What! What are you talking about?!" I explained the law to her, and that I had about 200 years in prison sitting in the back seat. She just shook her head, and said that she was glad that we were leaving and going to Texas. Yeah, so was I.
This reminds me of when I left the PRNJ. As we passed the sign on the Delaware Memorial Bridge which said "Welcome to Delaware," I calmly turned to my wife and said "Now you won't have to bail me out of jail." I got the expected bug-eyes and open jaw, followed quickly by "What! What are you talking about?!" I explained the law to her, and that I had about 200 years in prison sitting in the back seat. She just shook her head, and said that she was glad that we were leaving and going to Texas. Yeah, so was I.
geekWithA.45
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Sam:
That was the case for a long time, but Evan Nappen, esqu, took them on in court, on the basis that the "functionally equivalent" language was unconstitutionally vague with respect to post-ban configurations.
The court agreed, (shocking, actually) and the general concensus is that post ban AR types not named "AR-15" are legal to purchase/own/etc. You'll even see them in gunshop racks these days.
The decision noted that without the bayo mount, the function had indeed changed, and thus it was no longer "functionally equivalent".
A letter from the state AG clarified that "assault weapons" are those listed by name, or any that exceeds the evil feature count.
I'd say that the most problematic AWB is probably California's, although CT, MA and a few other states have strewn some legal landmines around as well.
My take on it is that CA took note of the failure of NJ's AWB, and corrected the language on it, to achieve their evil ends.
That was the case for a long time, but Evan Nappen, esqu, took them on in court, on the basis that the "functionally equivalent" language was unconstitutionally vague with respect to post-ban configurations.
The court agreed, (shocking, actually) and the general concensus is that post ban AR types not named "AR-15" are legal to purchase/own/etc. You'll even see them in gunshop racks these days.
The decision noted that without the bayo mount, the function had indeed changed, and thus it was no longer "functionally equivalent".
A letter from the state AG clarified that "assault weapons" are those listed by name, or any that exceeds the evil feature count.
I'd say that the most problematic AWB is probably California's, although CT, MA and a few other states have strewn some legal landmines around as well.
My take on it is that CA took note of the failure of NJ's AWB, and corrected the language on it, to achieve their evil ends.
dc2wheel
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armoredman:
That 'registration' was only for handguns - DC residents can still buy/
own/register rifles & shotguns with a barrel 20" or over as long as it
isn't capable of holding over 12 rounds. Yes, they must have some sort
of lock on them or be disassembled, and when registering you must
designate a particular room in the house that it's stored in.
That 'registration' was only for handguns - DC residents can still buy/
own/register rifles & shotguns with a barrel 20" or over as long as it
isn't capable of holding over 12 rounds. Yes, they must have some sort
of lock on them or be disassembled, and when registering you must
designate a particular room in the house that it's stored in.
Sam Adams
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Glad to see the change in NJ law (let's see how long THAT lasts), but I'm still glad to be gone. The 5-year sentence for >15 round magazines still applies, so I'd be looking at prison time if I returned
(and a lot more now than when I escaped).
Glad to see the change in NJ law (let's see how long THAT lasts), but I'm still glad to be gone. The 5-year sentence for >15 round magazines still applies, so I'd be looking at prison time if I returned
(and a lot more now than when I escaped). geekWithA.45
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Sam:
Change in law? Nope. The law reads exactly as it used to. If you read it today, you might erroneously conclude that post-ban AR's (ahem) XM's remain banned.
To this day, everytime I uncase my Dissipator, I get this look at the range:
This was a meager victory wrested from them with much effort and expense on some poor schlub's part, to whom I am indebted, and unless you took great pains to be informed, or happened to frequent one of the few gunshops with the brassy ones to rack unPC rifles, you'd never know.
Change in law? Nope. The law reads exactly as it used to. If you read it today, you might erroneously conclude that post-ban AR's (ahem) XM's remain banned.
To this day, everytime I uncase my Dissipator, I get this look at the range:
This was a meager victory wrested from them with much effort and expense on some poor schlub's part, to whom I am indebted, and unless you took great pains to be informed, or happened to frequent one of the few gunshops with the brassy ones to rack unPC rifles, you'd never know.
standingbear
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take a look at ohio revised code on its definition of a machinegun.
Sam Adams
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While not technically a change in the law, it is a change in the way the PRNJ enforces it, which is good enough for me.
Now that I think about it, I remember the letter (I even have a copy somewhere in my files). This is one of those "Duh" moments: I completely forgot that I bought a Bushie lower in October of '98 from an FFL friend of mine out of state (just before the deadline that required the purchase to be registered with NJ), and I only did it because I had a copy of the AG's letter.
By the way, pulling out an AR down here in TX doesn't get one a , it gets you a or a 
, and sometimes a 
from someone that sold his a few years back.
While not technically a change in the law, it is a change in the way the PRNJ enforces it, which is good enough for me.
Now that I think about it, I remember the letter (I even have a copy somewhere in my files). This is one of those "Duh" moments: I completely forgot that I bought a Bushie lower in October of '98 from an FFL friend of mine out of state (just before the deadline that required the purchase to be registered with NJ), and I only did it because I had a copy of the AG's letter.
By the way, pulling out an AR down here in TX doesn't get one a
, it gets you a or a , and sometimes a from someone that sold his a few years back.whoami
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Funny.....mine usually gets
. Heck, my M4 is the reason I've had close to half my group at work out to the range. Well, okay, there was the one time my bro's ex girlfriend saw it. He just grabbed it from my room while I was on the computer (I knew and let him) and brought it downstairs. One of the funniest moments of my life, the piercing voice screaming 'OH MY GOD! IS IT LOADED! GET IT AWAY FROM ME!!!'.Of course, the only time they go
is when I dump a 20 rounder (with wooden block to 15 rounds!) as fast as I can pull the trigger. God bless the RRA 2 stage trigger!As for AWBs, I'd definitely have to say CA. Two words for you...FAB TEN. Yeesh!
artherd
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CA is pretty bad, the AR and AK are outright BANNED.
Possesion and registration was required before (iirc) 1/1/2000, and you are restricted
New purchases are NOT allowed. Peroid. Private transfers, forget it, banned.
You cannot even will it to your next of kin. That's right. (and I'm not so sure that part is particularily legal infact.)
Oh, but you can get a Kel-Tec SU-16 that takes AR-15 mags, shoots .223 just fine, and even folds up for compact storage. (and can carry an extra mag in the butt.)
CA is insane.
It gets better, you can own a full-auto Class-III gun in CA (eventually, with much expense and you probally have to sleep with the Sherrif.) Say it's an M-16.
Say you remove the auto-sear.
It now becomes an ILLEGAL unregistered assault weapon!
That's right, buy downgrading it, you become a felon.
Makes no sense.
Possesion and registration was required before (iirc) 1/1/2000, and you are restricted
New purchases are NOT allowed. Peroid. Private transfers, forget it, banned.
You cannot even will it to your next of kin. That's right. (and I'm not so sure that part is particularily legal infact.)
Oh, but you can get a Kel-Tec SU-16 that takes AR-15 mags, shoots .223 just fine, and even folds up for compact storage. (and can carry an extra mag in the butt.)
CA is insane.
It gets better, you can own a full-auto Class-III gun in CA (eventually, with much expense and you probally have to sleep with the Sherrif.) Say it's an M-16.
Say you remove the auto-sear.
It now becomes an ILLEGAL unregistered assault weapon!
That's right, buy downgrading it, you become a felon.
Makes no sense.
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