Suppressor transfers

[Kentucky]

Is it legal for a private individual to sale their suppressor or suppressed firearm to another private individual? If so, what are the parameters? Can it be accomplished like a regular FTF transaction or is something different required?

 

[Amish_Bill]

If the individual is in the same state you are, you can transfer it to them directly -- AFTER the BATFE approves the Form 4 transfer and the $200 tax has been paid.

If the individual is out of state, it needs to be transferred to an NFA dealer in that person's state THEN transfered to the person. (not sure if that means two $200 transfers or not)

There's no such thing as a parking lot FTF with NFA items.

 

[Dan Forrester]

If the out of state item is on an ATF form 3 then it will ship out from dealer to dealer tax free. If it’s on an ATF form 4 then it will cost $200 to send it to your dealer, and another $200 to take possession of it.

Dan

 

[Amish_Bill]

I'm not familiar with a Form 3...

let me look....

Yeah - Form 3 seems to only give you a tax free transfer for dealer to dealer transfers. Not the situation described above. :-(

 

[eastwood44mag]

So $400 if it's on a form 4?

For those of us who are uneducated, what's the difference between a Form 3 and a Form 4?

 

[OEF_VET]

A Form 3 is used to complete a tax-free transfer between two dealers, or SOT's.

A Form 4 is used to complete a tax-paid transfer between two individuals.

In the case of selling an NFA item, such as a suppressor, between two residents of different states, neither of whom is an SOT (Special Occupational Taxpayer), you would need to pay $400. The first $200 would be paid to transfer the NFA item from the owner to the SOT. Once that transfer is approved, and the SOT takes ownership, the next $200 is paid to transfer the item from the SOT to the buyer.

 

[dragongoddess]

Suppressor - Silencer are we talking the same thing.

 

[wdlsguy]

Yes. Supressor AKA silencer AKA muffler.

 

[OEF_VET]

Suppressor - Silencer are we talking the same thing.

dragongoddess,

The correct, technical term is suppressor, because they don't truly silence the report. What they do is slow down the gases caused by the exploding gunpowder, bringing them below the speed of sound. Dependant on the weight and caliber of the bullet, the bullet may still be traveling above the speed of sound, causing a sonic boom. There are certain bullets available which are heavy enough to stay below the speed of sound, such as any .45 ACP load, 147 grain 9mm's, and heavy, low-powder .22's.

 

[MisterPX]

2 stamps is why there's not much of a market for used cans across state lines. If the buyer is getting hit with the taxes, they'd probably get it cheaper new from a dealer.

 

[dragongoddess]

so is one of any use when hunting. I ask because I have a BAR BOSS 300 win mag I hope to be using soon.

 

[Dionysusigma]

.300 WinMag is a bit difficult to suppress, due to high velocities. It'll quiet it some, but a supersonic projectile is still going to be loud. A bullwhip has no explosive properties, but it'll still make that nice *crack* when the tip breaks the sound barrier.

Also, with the BOSS system (basically an adjustable brake), it's not going to do any good if all the gases are sent out the sides before they even get to the suppressor.

Maybe if the brake was removed, and the barrel rethreaded, it might make a bit more sense. But then, what's the point of paying extra for the BOSS feature?

As far as utility during hunting goes, they can come in handy if you tire of wearing uncomfortable hearing protection , if locals get tired of hearing shots, etc. Apparently, some countries in the EU require the use of them...