Synthetic bp?

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I know, me too. No black powder in my state anymore. Used to buy it everywhere, hardware store, gun shops, fishing shops...
There's no reason for this, shop owners can still carry BP but don't because they have to buy a magazine and pay a license fee.
It's just too bad because it's such a big aspect of shooting BP, it should be more available.
 
MCGunner,
You might try checking with local gun clubs/shooting ranges. Oftentimes they keep powders on hand for members and if know any members, they could maybe get you some. I know the clubs I was a part of back in FLA did this.
 
Well, the club I'm in here doesn't have many BP shooters. I doubt I could talk 'em into handling it. Don't know the laws involved in it. About the only option is to go buy a bulk purchase if I can find that store north of SA. But, then, I wonder if I'd get tagged as some sort of terrorist suspect if I bought 20 lbs worth. :rolleyes: Used to could just walk into any gun shop and pick up a pound. Ah, those were the days.
 
To me, people and agencies that take away rights like buying and using blackpowder, they are the terrorists. I've seen it impact many things, the CPSC would be happy if we all stayed in padded rooms 24/7.
Apparently no American is smart enough to handle guns, powder, chemicals, knives....
But the "war on drugs" is still failing miserably. The gov needs to prioritize and take care of real problems, not paranoid hypothetical non existent situations dreamt up by radical liberals.
By the way, I thought up a great a system to stop drug users and keep population down. Every state should have a special drug facilty. You want to do cocaine, no problem, come on in, do all you want!! For Free!! Must finish it all within an hour though, minimum 1 pound!!!
This keeps the streets clean, save the taxpayers billions, lowers crime..etc.
Worth a try anyway:D
 
...Nobody on the planet sells BP, nobody, nowhere, anywhere, except one huge sporting goods store I heard about north of San Antonio...Try ordering BP, see what you'll pay in shipping even if it could be done...
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What planet do you live on? Oh, I forgot. Texas. That explains it.

Goex is available from Graf's by the pound - from 1 pound up to 50 pounds. It costs $11.99/ pound. Hazmat fee is $20 for any amount up to 50 pounds. There is a $3.95 fee for 'handling and insurance', but shipping is free. They require a $30 minimum purchase, so you need to order at least 3 pounds if all you are buying is powder. So, for 3 pounds the bill is $59.92. And yes, it can be done, even from the planet Texas.

I can buy Goex from a retail dealer 45 miles away for $15.95/pound plus 6% sales tax. I get 21 mpg and pay $3.20/gal, so driving the round trip (ie, 'shipping, handling and insurance') costs $13.71. So, buying 3 pounds from the retailer costs me $64.43.

I can also buy 777 at the local gun shop/hardware store/outdoor outfitter for $22.95/pound. Gas is not an issue as I go by the shop every couple days or so on other errands anyway. So 777, for 3 pounds, is $68.85.

If you get the same mileage and pay the same amount for gas that I do, your 60 mile round trip to buy 777 costs $9.14; it will need to cost less than $23.02 per pound (including taxes) to beat Graf's mail order price even with the $20 Hazmat fee.
 
Order 45 pounds of Swiss BP from Grafs and you get a "bulk discount" which cancels out the hazmat altogether.
It ends up at $19 a pound for Swiss!! Can't beat that. Just need to get enough people in on a bulk purchase....
Otherwise, 20 pounds of Goex will ship under 1 hazmat fee, cost per pound comes in at $13 !!! I've never bought it that cheap anywhere!
If you can deal with a bulk buy, it's a great deal. When you think about it, chances are you use 3 or more pounds a year. Although I think I must average about 5-7 lbs per year, between BP guns and cartridges.
 
For me it is Triple 7. It is powerful and doesn't foul my Pietta 1858 Remington as much as other powders. For the posters complaining about fouling of the arbor pin on their 1858's, I suggest getting a cylinder loading stand. It takes all of about 3-5 seconds to drop the cylinder and about 5-8 seconds to reinstall the cylinder after loading it. I find it faster to load the gun using the cylinder loader, plus I have no problems with the arbor pin fouling. A lot of you have a stand that holds your guns for reloading so it is not like you don't have room for it, just trade them out in your BP kit. I have shot over 100 shots at a setting with no misfires or fouling problems. The only thing I did was run a nipple pick down the nipples about 1\2 way through.
 
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