jordan1948
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They had one in Wild Wild West also but just for a short bit.
Terminator's shotgun?
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Black Majik
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Lightsped said:
Actually, it was a Remington 870 with a folding stock.
peacemaker45
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The chinese versions do have a few issues from the factory. One of them is that the receiver is more open inside, leaves more room for the uncontrolled feed top round to flop around and catch on things, on the way into the chamber. A few other things, too, amounting to the action being about as rough as a cob.
However, Tom Wildenauer, AKA Lassiter, seems to have figured out how to make one run. He's been getting times in the low three second range, for loading two, firing, repeating the process.
~~~Mat
However, Tom Wildenauer, AKA Lassiter, seems to have figured out how to make one run. He's been getting times in the low three second range, for loading two, firing, repeating the process.
~~~Mat
I guess that by "tactical" I mean a shotgun that is built or rebuilt for LE/military use. When I said sawed off (or factory short) I was referring to the many versions of all the old shotguns that were used by express messengers, rangers etc.. But they were just sporting guns that were shortened either at the factory, or by the user. The difference in the guns was merely the barrel length, with the odd homemade butt cuff thrown in. I guess I would call the 97 Winchester with its bayonet attachment/heat shield the first really tactical shotgun as it incorporated more than just a shorter barrel.
I suppose the ultimate expression of the currently used tactical shotgun to be the Bennelli M4 as used by the USMC. I don't consider the odd ball experimental guns as proven useful weapons, the old now banned street sweeper would also be an example of such, it did work, even if it was ugly.
When I get a digital camera I will start posting photos of some of my shtoguns and S&Ws.
I suppose the ultimate expression of the currently used tactical shotgun to be the Bennelli M4 as used by the USMC. I don't consider the odd ball experimental guns as proven useful weapons, the old now banned street sweeper would also be an example of such, it did work, even if it was ugly.
When I get a digital camera I will start posting photos of some of my shtoguns and S&Ws.
armoredman
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Odd ball is the Pancor Jackhammer, which had a cameo in Total Recall, IIRC. I liked that lever shotgun in Terminator, briefly considered getting one of the Chinese clones.
Gunnerpalace
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Nope, It was the Bartenders shotgun that was behind the counter he took it from him, stole the biker's 1911, and clothes and his Harley
And the original 1887 are fairly rare so unless you want to pay a lot Norinco is the was to go.
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I thought all you guys hated PG shotguns.
Piscator
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A necropost I admit....but for all those (and there are many on the web) who want to think that the T-800's shotgun was one of the Norinco clones here is an interesting fact for ya.
1) T2 came out July 3, 1991 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103064/
2) IAC began importing the 1887 replica in 2003.
INTERSTATE ARMS CORP. : SHOTGUNS: LEVER ACTION
MODEL 87W
- 12 ga. only, 2 3/4 in. chamber, patterned after the Winchester Model 1887, 20 in. barrel, walnut stock and forearm, mfg. by SD1 Rizhou. Importation began mid-2003.
Grading 100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60%
MSR $529 $445 $375 $335 $275 $235 $200 $180
I have one the 1887 clones, mine was made in 2006, after Cayote Cap went to China and explained, slowly, exactly what they were doing wrong. Mine works great and works for the "2 shot" trick also. In fact, loading the mag
(5 rounds), and loading 2 shot (One in the chamber and one in the carrier) you can have a total of 7 rounds ready. The throw of the lever is crazy long tho and you need to cycle it hard to be sure of doing it hard enough but heck, its a Chinese copy, drive it like you stole it!
Boberle
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1) T2 came out July 3, 1991 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103064/
2) IAC began importing the 1887 replica in 2003.
INTERSTATE ARMS CORP. : SHOTGUNS: LEVER ACTION
MODEL 87W
- 12 ga. only, 2 3/4 in. chamber, patterned after the Winchester Model 1887, 20 in. barrel, walnut stock and forearm, mfg. by SD1 Rizhou. Importation began mid-2003.
Grading 100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60%
MSR $529 $445 $375 $335 $275 $235 $200 $180
I have one the 1887 clones, mine was made in 2006, after Cayote Cap went to China and explained, slowly, exactly what they were doing wrong. Mine works great and works for the "2 shot" trick also. In fact, loading the mag
(5 rounds), and loading 2 shot (One in the chamber and one in the carrier) you can have a total of 7 rounds ready. The throw of the lever is crazy long tho and you need to cycle it hard to be sure of doing it hard enough but heck, its a Chinese copy, drive it like you stole it!
Boberle
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The Chi-com knockoffs are fun if they can be found cheap, but they do have their issues. It certainly was fun getting to totally strip a JMB design though. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=283999
They used a real Winchester for the Terminator 2 film. Not a Norinco. I know the armorers who modified the gun. Besides enlarging the lever so Arnold could cock the gun by twirling it around with one hand, I seem to recall that they also cut down the barrel.
KarbineKrazy
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nobody was saying the movie gun was a Norinco, but if you wanted to reproduce one Norinco was the only way to go.
VA27
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I've got one and it's a lot of fun to shoot and really draws a crowd on a skeet range.
As has been said, the action must be open to load. But then a pump must have the action closed to load, so there's no real disadvantage, just a difference.
I think it could be faster than a pump, with a little practice.
I haven't seen one of the Italian guns yet, but they're probably 'prettier' than the Norinco. (at least I hope so, being twice the price!)
i think it may be the most under-rated shotgun out there.
As has been said, the action must be open to load. But then a pump must have the action closed to load, so there's no real disadvantage, just a difference.
I think it could be faster than a pump, with a little practice.
I haven't seen one of the Italian guns yet, but they're probably 'prettier' than the Norinco. (at least I hope so, being twice the price!)
i think it may be the most under-rated shotgun out there.
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