Testing .38 S&W...

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I've been testing a lot of obsolete calibers lately with my new Caldwell Chronograph. It's been interesting. I started the tests using my S&W .38 Safety Hammerless 4th Model and a Harrington and Richardson .38 Hammerless with a 3-1/4" barrel. The H&R turned out to be a 'slow gun,' consistently achieving lower velocities than the S&W, despite having a barrel twice as long.
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For this series of tests I replaced the H&R with a S&W .38 Double Action 2nd Model with a 3-1/4" barrel, and this worked as you would expect, with the longer barrel yielding higher velocities.
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We’ll start with listing the Winchester factory ammo for comparison.

Winchester 145gr. (modern) factory ammunition

S&W- 1-5/8″ barrel- 535 fps. 92 ft./lbs SD: 39

H&R- 3-1/4″ barrel- 478 fps. 74 ft./lbs SD: 42

Deeply unimpressive, and one of the reasons for this became plain when I pulled several of the bullets to try a different load under them. They are not .361″. They are not .357″. They average .352″! This was consistent across all fifteen bullets that I pulled, and may go a ways towards explaining the results of this first load-

Winchester 145gr RNL, 2.8gr. Unique, CCI500 primer

S&W 3-1/4″ barrel- 540 fps. 94 ft/lbs SD: 28

This performance is similar to the results for firing the factory ammo through the 1-5/8″ gun last time, and the bullets keyholed at 7 yards. I didn’t even bother to test them out of the shorter gun. Next…!

160gr. .361 LSWC, 2.7gr. Unique, CCI500 primer

S&W 3-1/4″ barrel- 754 fps. 202 ft./lbs SD: 24

S&W 1-5/8″ Barrel- 722 fps. 185 ft/lbs SD: 31

This load, while still considered safe for top-break revolvers, doubles the power of the factory load, and is my new defensive load for this caliber. I will restrict this to my S&Ws, though. They are of high enough quality to handle this load, but even they won’t be getting it as a steady diet; there’s simply no need to risk beating up an antique gun when practice and recreational shooting can be accomplished with milder loads.
 
Tinker, any clue as to why the H&R is a slow shooter? I have a .32 long revolver that shoots slow and I have my suspicions involving an oversized bore and blow-by which also explains leading. Just curious if there is a mechanical reason for the lethargic launch.
 
Tinker, any clue as to why the H&R is a slow shooter? I have a .32 long revolver that shoots slow and I have my suspicions involving an oversized bore and blow-by which also explains leading. Just curious if there is a mechanical reason for the lethargic launch.

I suspect an oversized bore; haven't gotten around to slugging it yet. Chamber mouths might also be oversized with a similar result.
 
I agree with film495. Your results are very interesting to me. When you have time I know I would really like to see more similar testing of older revolvers which are obsolete but maybe not as obsolete as some of us would think.
 
I agree with film495. Your results are very interesting to me. When you have time I know I would really like to see more similar testing of older revolvers which are obsolete but maybe not as obsolete as some of us would think.

I'll be continuing this project, and reporting results here as well as on my Blog. This spring I hope to be able to start doing FBI-style gel tests, but getting set up to do that isn't cheap; I really want to use the Clear Gel blocks so it's easy to see the results; they are also less sensitive to temperature.
 
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