MagnumDweeb
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My Easter was a good one, got my Dad the anti(arguing over Switzerland) to admit that if we all toted guns and had the right to use them lawfully to prevent crime our country would have an incredibly low crime rate.
After we got done doing our traditional brunch at home, talking, and laughing, my mom(who I have bought three guns, my Dad just happens to shoot them from time to time) went and got her 'bullets box' as she refers to it with an air of affection that I find quite odd. I bought my mom an Taurus 85, Bersa .380, and Taurus PT 22(the little .22lr so I know she would have one anytime anywhere, better than nothing). I also paid for my mom's CWP because my Dad was being asinine over the matter(now he wants one). I had bought my mom two bricks of .22lr, which she isn't even half-way through the first box of 550, and got her 6 fifty round boxes of .380 originally, and six boxes of .38 special originally.
My mom doesn't really know how well ammo stores so she wanted me to look at it, so to alleviate her nerves I went ahead and checked it over. But when she talked about 'sharing' her ammo with some of our neighbors, my Dad lit up, and I'll admit I wasn't thrilled. My mom only had a two boxes of .380 and three boxes of .38 special left from when I first bought her ammo(she only shoots once every couple of months when I take her, it's the only way she will practice, my Dad is Vietnam Vet and I leave him be). And don't get me wrong, if my mom had a couple dozen boxes of each and wanted to sell at cost a couple boxes there would be nothing wrong with that, but none of her neighbors are poor (if they are they should sell their 250K in 'this market' houses to buy ammo then if they are really worried).
We talked for a good long while, my mom knew that ammo had gotten really expensive(relative to when I boughter her ammo, a good 30% more expensive), but she didn't have a clue it had gotten hard to come by outside gunshops who sold the ammo at relatively high prices. It's been getting harder to come by at Walmart, it's been going gone after four hours of delievery. So my mom then started to panic, asking about when Walmart gets its ammo, how much I had, why I had given up buying ammo at retail and hiked prices till the panic passed (probably a couple years or till we get a new President) if it wasn't surplus ammo. It all ended with my mom worried sick sadly enough till we came up with her getting a couple Tokarevs from an FFL guy I know, and right there in the kitched she ordered over 2k of 7.62x25 ammo. And it got me to thinking. A k of 7.62x25 really only ran about 90 bucks a year ago, now it's around 120 if you shop around, Makarov is holding steady at 12 bucks, granted all the ammo is not relaodable. .22lr is up relatively to where it was a couple years ago.
I know we have beat this to death but is anyone else finding newbs who are panicking over ammo. I had to talk my mom out of paying obscene amounts for ammo at the gunshops(she was ready to take a few hundred bucks and buy .380 and .38 special and I doubt that would have got her much, so instead she spend less than three hundred after shipping to get 2k of practice ammo). I've gone strictly to reloading on .38 special and .357. I got plenty of primers (just shy of 5k in small pistol and small magnum pistol), and have ordered more from Cabelas who have been relatively good about getting me my back orders. I'm fine with backorders so long as I'm not paying obscenely hiked prices for it.
I am getting ticked though about the people I see buying ammo at Walmart and selling it at a profit, yes there is capitalism and then there is just plain immorality in my opinion. It's not like they have a store they sell out of, they are gouging the needy and the foolish, and that comes with karma I don't want.
My summer break will be here in about a month, I'm getting my casting kit together, and making my trips to salvage yards that sell wheel weights and getting my lead. I was already prepared to give up retail ammo and hiked reloading components, but I say take it a step further and go to casting. There is yet to be much of a profit margin in casting so I won't bother trying to resell what I cast, just do it for my own use, my eyes got opened with reloading, now we'll probably see a run on salvageable lead.
After we got done doing our traditional brunch at home, talking, and laughing, my mom(who I have bought three guns, my Dad just happens to shoot them from time to time) went and got her 'bullets box' as she refers to it with an air of affection that I find quite odd. I bought my mom an Taurus 85, Bersa .380, and Taurus PT 22(the little .22lr so I know she would have one anytime anywhere, better than nothing). I also paid for my mom's CWP because my Dad was being asinine over the matter(now he wants one). I had bought my mom two bricks of .22lr, which she isn't even half-way through the first box of 550, and got her 6 fifty round boxes of .380 originally, and six boxes of .38 special originally.
My mom doesn't really know how well ammo stores so she wanted me to look at it, so to alleviate her nerves I went ahead and checked it over. But when she talked about 'sharing' her ammo with some of our neighbors, my Dad lit up, and I'll admit I wasn't thrilled. My mom only had a two boxes of .380 and three boxes of .38 special left from when I first bought her ammo(she only shoots once every couple of months when I take her, it's the only way she will practice, my Dad is Vietnam Vet and I leave him be). And don't get me wrong, if my mom had a couple dozen boxes of each and wanted to sell at cost a couple boxes there would be nothing wrong with that, but none of her neighbors are poor (if they are they should sell their 250K in 'this market' houses to buy ammo then if they are really worried).
We talked for a good long while, my mom knew that ammo had gotten really expensive(relative to when I boughter her ammo, a good 30% more expensive), but she didn't have a clue it had gotten hard to come by outside gunshops who sold the ammo at relatively high prices. It's been getting harder to come by at Walmart, it's been going gone after four hours of delievery. So my mom then started to panic, asking about when Walmart gets its ammo, how much I had, why I had given up buying ammo at retail and hiked prices till the panic passed (probably a couple years or till we get a new President) if it wasn't surplus ammo. It all ended with my mom worried sick sadly enough till we came up with her getting a couple Tokarevs from an FFL guy I know, and right there in the kitched she ordered over 2k of 7.62x25 ammo. And it got me to thinking. A k of 7.62x25 really only ran about 90 bucks a year ago, now it's around 120 if you shop around, Makarov is holding steady at 12 bucks, granted all the ammo is not relaodable. .22lr is up relatively to where it was a couple years ago.
I know we have beat this to death but is anyone else finding newbs who are panicking over ammo. I had to talk my mom out of paying obscene amounts for ammo at the gunshops(she was ready to take a few hundred bucks and buy .380 and .38 special and I doubt that would have got her much, so instead she spend less than three hundred after shipping to get 2k of practice ammo). I've gone strictly to reloading on .38 special and .357. I got plenty of primers (just shy of 5k in small pistol and small magnum pistol), and have ordered more from Cabelas who have been relatively good about getting me my back orders. I'm fine with backorders so long as I'm not paying obscenely hiked prices for it.
I am getting ticked though about the people I see buying ammo at Walmart and selling it at a profit, yes there is capitalism and then there is just plain immorality in my opinion. It's not like they have a store they sell out of, they are gouging the needy and the foolish, and that comes with karma I don't want.
My summer break will be here in about a month, I'm getting my casting kit together, and making my trips to salvage yards that sell wheel weights and getting my lead. I was already prepared to give up retail ammo and hiked reloading components, but I say take it a step further and go to casting. There is yet to be much of a profit margin in casting so I won't bother trying to resell what I cast, just do it for my own use, my eyes got opened with reloading, now we'll probably see a run on salvageable lead.
