Hammerhead6814
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Both options in this thread are irrelevant. Buy a Browning Hi-Power and never want another gun again.
The battle of reliability-G17 vs. P95
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DenaliPark
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Why they are is because they are! When Glock first burst onto the scene way back when, they scored their two first major police departments with the G17, St Paul PD and Miami as I recall, back then S&W revolvers ruled the police trade with auto's not really seriously considered.
That all changed with the introduction of the Glock-17 9mm pistols, before Glock, all auto's were viewed as not reliable for police duty, and largely speaking this was correct. Then came Glock with their indestructible pistols that virtually never didn't go bang when you pulled the trigger, they didn't require the attention's of gunsmiths or "reliability pkg's" to perform, quite the opposite, they worked right from the box and they never failed, they also didn't rust or corrode even after years of neglect from individual officers....
Glock almost put S&W out of business, literally, it was that close! Suddenly LEO's had a 17 shot pistol that was virtually maintence free, it always worked, it fed everything that they could stuff into it. Other gun makers were forced to compete or die, Colt would have died if not for their government contracts, S&W who had ridiculed the Glock ended up losing a lawsuit to Glock for so closely copying Glock that you could actually swap out slides from the Sigma to the Glock and they would run!
Glock changed the entire paradigm, every ultra reliable pistol available in this modern market is just that, ultra reliable because of the Glock....
That's why Glock is the be all, end all of reliability, they changed the paradigm and now rule at least 70% of the LE market alone, not to forget that they are also the favored pistol by most of Nato.
Jed Carter
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I doubt if the P95 could keep up, but you can shoot a G17 untill it melts the frame and causes the pistol to fail. Just how many continous rounds that is I do not know, but I believe the Ruger would experience failures before the Glock. The Ruger with ambidexterous everything, has a lot more to fail than a G17. The Lexington Police went from Beretta 92s to the Ruger pistols due to a perceived need for a decocker. This lasted briefly and all use Glock pistols with the NY trigger now. Cost, maintenence, reliability, accuracy and capacity all determine what a department uses, with cost a major concern. Don't run over them with a tractor, or throw them in the mud. Just shoot them until they fail, my vote would be the G17 on top.
I really like Rugers. I really like Glocks.
I have to say that straight out of the box, the Glock is probably going eat the Ruger's lunch in term of reliability.
I watched my friend buy a P95 from a gun shot NIB, take it to the range and curse it every other mag when it jammed. It just needed to be cleaned, honestly. However, it was a jam-o-matic that first day. It's flawless now, but it needed a cleaning and a break in.
I took a G36 NIB (one of the supposedly fickle Glocks) out of the glass case where I bought it and put 200 rounds down range. I never once had a FTF/E. No jams, no anything.
I realize that two guns of two different calibers a statistical does not make. I find Glocks boring, fairly ugly, and they ooze zero charisma. But they are simple guns, well made, and if you HAD to bet the farm on a pistol running like a champ right out of the box, you certainly could make worse choices than a Glock.
I have to say that straight out of the box, the Glock is probably going eat the Ruger's lunch in term of reliability.
I watched my friend buy a P95 from a gun shot NIB, take it to the range and curse it every other mag when it jammed. It just needed to be cleaned, honestly. However, it was a jam-o-matic that first day. It's flawless now, but it needed a cleaning and a break in.
I took a G36 NIB (one of the supposedly fickle Glocks) out of the glass case where I bought it and put 200 rounds down range. I never once had a FTF/E. No jams, no anything.
I realize that two guns of two different calibers a statistical does not make. I find Glocks boring, fairly ugly, and they ooze zero charisma. But they are simple guns, well made, and if you HAD to bet the farm on a pistol running like a champ right out of the box, you certainly could make worse choices than a Glock.
easyg
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I had a Ruger P95....
It was a nice enough pistol, especially for the low price, but overall it just wasn't as nice as my Glocks.
The trigger-pull was not as nice as the trigger-pull of the Glock.
And I really hated the magazine release design on the Ruger....too sharp and the forward push was slightly awkward.
The new Ruger SR series is a great improvement in my opinion...
It was a nice enough pistol, especially for the low price, but overall it just wasn't as nice as my Glocks.
The trigger-pull was not as nice as the trigger-pull of the Glock.
And I really hated the magazine release design on the Ruger....too sharp and the forward push was slightly awkward.
The new Ruger SR series is a great improvement in my opinion...
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