Just another shill, under the supposed auspices of the ABA, which, by-the-way, is one of the most liberal, anti-gun organizations on Earth.
I can tell that you're angry, Rockstar, but I can't tell from your message whether you're angry at me for posting the information about the ALI-ABA course, at the ABA for publishing it under their auspices, or at the ABA for recognizing Ayoob, Wiener, Yurick, and Nassburg as experts on the legal realities of lethal force in self-defense.
If your anger is directed at me perhaps it might comfort you to know that I'm not a "shill" and I am not "under the supposed auspices" of the American Bar Association. I have no connection with either the American Law Institute or the American Bar Association. I bought the course at full price, benefitted from it, and think it worth the attention of serious people who prefer to get information about the legal realities of self-defense from experts recognized by the American Bar Association instead of from non-lawyers who post legal advice and opinions under cute pseudonyms on the Internet.
The course isn't "under the
supposed auspices of the ABA"--whatever you meant by stringing those words together. The words don't have much real meaning in this context. The course really and truly was produced and is sponsored by the American Bar Association in conjunction with the American Law Institute. I've provided
the link people can use to get information about the course and to order it from the ALI/ABA. They offer other courses too. This course is real, and so is the ALI/ABA recognition of Massad Ayoob, Jeffrey S. Weiner, Andrew N. Yurick, and Richard T. Nassburg as experts. Your opinion of the legal community's judgment seems to me irrelevant and not of much interest.
I think that serious people want good information instead of bad, and that the best way to get good information about the legal realities of using lethal force in a self-defense situation is from experts recognized by the American Bar Association instead of from opinionated lay people on the Internet. So far as I know this course is the only one of its kind offered on the use of lethal force under the auspices of the American Bar Association. Whether you like it or not the American Bar Association does matter.
In fact the American Bar Association's sponsorship of this course for prosecutors, defense attorneys, and policy makers gives the course unique value for serious people. The course allows serious people to get on the same page as the kinds of people they must contend with if they ever are in the awful situation of having to use deadly force to defend themselves. Although it might be comforting to deny reality with a statement such as "If it's a good shoot you have nothing to worry about," that statement means little more than "If you're never charged with doing something wrong you'll never be charged with doing something wrong." It's gibberish and not the kind of thinking from which serious people can take great comfort. Serious people prefer to know the thinking and standards taught to those they will encounter within the legal system. This course is one of the few ways the lay person can get such insights. Also important, I think, is that the advice in this course is sane and sensible, unlike much of the legal opinions offered by people who post such stuff anonymously on the Internet, and the four experts are in remarkable agreement even when their points of view differ.
Your criticism of the ABA as liberal and "anti-gun" are irrelevant to a discussion of this course. There's no political cast to it and there's nothing "anti-gun" about it. In fact the course validates the use of lethal force in self-defense situations where lethal force is the only real option. Whatever the merits of your criticism in other situations, in the case of this course the American Bar Association has done serious people a real service. So have Ayoob, Weiner, Yurick, and Nassburg. You evidently haven't even seen the course.
