This is great smg, PPsh 43

[nathan]

Was there a Polish version kit of this imported ? and what builder assembles them right vs the CAI version?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XLYjCTmEHs&feature=related

 

[6x6pinz]

certainly not IO Inc. Mine is at a gunsmith now trying to get it fixed so it will work. Bought it with the IO warranty only find out that IO won't return calls, emails, faxes to start the warranty process.

I have not had a lot of luck locating some one willing to put a parts kit together. Seems they are a little more difficult to get to work right than one would think.

 

[Cal-gun Fan]

I don't find it that great. Old fashioned action, poor caliber (in my opinion), bad stock, parts not readily available etc.

 

[6x6pinz]

they are the next cheapest thing to shoot next to a 22lr. They are fun in FA and semi is OK. Still in all if you are not into machine pistols I can see where there would be little to no interest in one of these. The caliber is fun and potent for punching paper and moving steel targets around. Much more effective than the 9mm. Oh yeah did I mention cheap to shoot.

 

[kozak6]

Seems they are a little more difficult to get to work right than one would think.

Yeah, since it's a simple open bolt SMG. That means it needs to be redesigned and rebuilt to fire from a closed bolt, which is almost as much work as building a whole new gun.

The only option right now it IO's version, which apparently has mixed reviews. IO's version is a pistol version with the stock fixed in the closed position, which limits usefulness. 7.62x25 has had spotty availability as of late, and may be drying up.

They are fun in FA

I'll bet. How many tens of thousands of dollars is a transferable one?

 

[6x6pinz]

I'll bet. How many tens of thousands of dollars is a transferable one?

Not sure, the one I played with was a dealer sample. I had a thing for the 762x25 round and bought a bunch of it. I have several pistols that shoot it so the pps was supposed to be a good fit. I missed out on SMG guns building me one before they went on to other ventures. there are a few around here with the tax stamp and the welds removed to allow the stocks to unfold. that makes them a whole different animal.

 

[goon]

Really, I think there are better choices available.

 

[amd6547]

I would rather have one than an MP5.

 

[Robert]

I like the MP40 better than the PPsh43. Easier to control and just way more fun to me. Though the PPsh is impressive I'd take an MP40 if given the choice.

 

[Quiet]

I'll bet. How many tens of thousands of dollars is a transferable one?

Around $10,000-17,000 depending on condition and accessories.

In 7.62x25mm, I would rather have a PPSh-41 than a PPS-43.

Some Russian WW2 re-enactors are adapting the semi-auto PPS-43 pistols into blank firing only guns, as a less expensive alternative for use in re-enactments.

 

[DavidMS]

I saw and handled a SBR version at a nearby FFL. It did not do much for me as my taste runs towards accurate rifles. But as a cheap entry into the NFA game, it could have merit. Richard, the FFL holder, told me they sold for $450+$200 tax stamp.

 

[alex4922]

Mine broke the firing pin in less than 200 rnds. They had supposedly fixed that problem. It was fun in the short time it went bang. I had thought about doing the sbr thing but it wasn't to be. Really using a bang for the buck mentality an sbr AK in 5.45 or a Draco would be the way to go.

FWIW Alex

 

[wkumatt]

Yall are talking about these right? http://centerfiresystems.com/pps43-pis.aspx Judging from what yall are saying this looks like a good price for SA build. I've looked around and thought about picking one up. The cheapest parts kit I found was 149$ and the cheapest receiver was 55$. I simply don't think I could build one for as cheap as these guys have them.

 

[Ian]

One thing is for sure, a semi PPS-43 is a way better choice than a semi Suomi...

 

[kozak6]

Why? The Suomi takes absurdly cheap and well made drums (and box magazines), and likely comes with a stock.

It's a viable hi cap pistol caliber carbine as opposed to a novelty plinking "pistol".

 

[Ian]

It's heavy (10 pounds), awkward, and the charging handle really sucks. You can get semiauto "rifle" PPS43s too, with long barrels and functional stocks.