Tip-up barrels in Autos

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I'm curious how rounds are extracted during firing in tip-up barrel semiautos like the Beretta 86 cheetah or the Tomcat that don't exhibit an extractor? Exactly what is the ejection process?
 
The case is just blown back.
Mostly the extractor functions just to manually unload the gun.

I've had extractors break and never knew it until I was cleaning the gun.
Of course some guns are very finicky about having a properly functioning extractor.

Some guns will also work fine without a ejector.
 
Correct, I had a EAA European 380 that worked the same if not better when the extractor was missing. Cases still were blown out ok.
 
One advantage of the tip ups is that you can very quietly load the chamber. There are a few situations where you might not want to make a ruckus racking the slide.
They are also very useful for people with arthritis, carpal tunnel syndrome, etc.
 
106rr said:
One advantage of the tip ups is that you can very quietly load the chamber. There are a few situations where you might not want to make a ruckus racking the slide.
They are also very useful for people with arthritis, carpal tunnel syndrome, etc.

Also correct, I am looking for a Beretta 86 to help me out when I get to my "golden years".
 
I have an 86. Its cake for me to use (one hand and all), and its my carry. It shoots well, both FMJs and JHPs. I have put about 1300rds in it this past year.

I wouldn't worry about cases ejecting. Mine will put them halfway down the firing line :eek: My husband is sure to stand back from the line when I'm to his left and its my turn.
 
I own a Tomcat 3032 INOX, and it uses a blow back ejection system. Tip up barrel designs cannot have extractors, as the barrel would catch on them when opening or closing.
 
I have a Tomcat that has been very reliable. I can't believe how long I owned it before it occurred to me that racking the slide is not the appropriate response to a round that fails to fire. The only way to clear the chamber is to open the barrel and remove the round.
 
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