Using 180g soft points. Had been using 150g soft point in 30-30. Killed two deer yesterday, it was if the hand of God reached down and slapped them. Bang - dead, bang - dead. Distance was about 125 yds. Could have got a third one but didn't want to have to deal with three at a time. Stalk hunting, standing, off hand. Was very impressed with the knock down power. I'll keep the 30-30 for old times sake but will hunt deer with the 30-06 from now on.