243winxb, I have seen cases that were ejected without necks, a very disciplined reloader of 30 years called and informed me he developed a problem with some of his reloads, he examined the case of the 5Th round fired, it did not have a neck, then he examined the first four, he managed to find 3 necks, he did not find the fourth, long story, he took the time to visit, at the time we were on another forum and he had noticed I did not make an effort to make everyone happy, anyhow, I put together projects that would answer his questions and the tools necessary to accomplish results without spending large sums of money, he changed his methods and techniques and the problem went away, and he found some of the advice he got on the Internet was not what it was c#%$d up to be.
Again: I purchased 1,400 30/06 cases each complete with a 30 cal dirt dobber (small black wasp), to clean the cases after the wasp hatched would take at least 4 days of tumbling, I cleaned them in 15 minutes by submerging in a 3 gal jug filled with 4% vinegar, after washing and drying I tumbled the cases for 2 hours, as I have said I clean very tarnished cases with vinegar for 15 minutes once for the life of the case, is this new? no, find a B&N reloading on how to reload, back in the 50s, they used dilluted So3, the cases came out black, and they did not loose the neck of the case unless they did something wrong that had nothing to do with cleaning.
The 1,400 cases cost 1 cent each, of the 1,400 many were used to form 8mm, 7mm, 7.65X53, 257 Roberts, 6.5X257 Roberts, 35 Whelen etc.. plus another 800 I purchased that were in belts with metal links, the cases were available to any one, they wanted pretty, shinney, once fired, just fired cases, 15 minutes is a small investment in time, not being vain I will purchase and use 'stuff' that other certique and then find fault, my thinking? they do not have a B&N reloading manual.
I visited Pat's reloading in Ohio, he had new unfired LC and LC match, nm cases for .08 to .10 cents each, a few friends kicked in to make the stop worth while, so I am not forced to use the 2,200 cases, none of the cases have 30/06 on the head stamp, to me that is another advantage.
F. Guffey