Vietnamese Parade: I see M4s, PPsh43 SMGs, M1 Carbines

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and tokarev pistol ( in holsters). Well , they got plenty of them right after the war. They definitely restained the M1 carbine woodstocks to red as they symbolize communism. The M4 s have suppressors, pretty cool. I see no AK 47s this time. They probably tried to put up something new for the world. Vietnam has really come a long way after the tumultuous history they went through.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV0SodU6LDA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blxC8iXyxBY
 
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Couldn't understand a word they said.

But a Dallas group of Vietnamese who settled here demanded that a local new Viet restaurant take down its red star symbol. It reminded them of why they and their parents left Vietnam.
 
I couldn't find the part in the video showing the rifles. A footage indicator would have been helpful.

I can say that if there are truly M4s there, they didn't get them from us during or right after the Vietnam war. The war ended in 1973. The M4 didn't come out until the early 80s. Perhaps they were CARs?
 
Yes, they could be CARs the original ones . The second video with the uniform Vietnamese trying very hard to perfect the accuracy of the AK 47 they manufactured is quite interesting. Although i dont know any word of Vietnamese but in the end they showed the one hole shot groups.
 
Call me crazy, but those "M4" carbines don't look like real rifles at all. Blow things up and freeze frame on a dozen or so places and it looks like they are solid rubber or plastic models like we had the M16 A1 Rubber rifles for training in rough stuff. They seem to have triangular hand guards, but in the freeze frames you can see the upper vents and they appear solid. The colors seem uniformly same, no difference between metal parts and plastic.

Makes one wonder.

The same for the unit with MP 5 SMGs someplace around 18 minutes. They just looked too uniform in construction as to color of parts and such.

The PPS 43 and PPSh41 were interesting as they seemed to have a high buff blue finish like the PPSh41 in the French Museum of the Army in Paris.

I thought the display of different tribal formal women's dress was fascinating as I thought the government was trying at one point to do away with differences between the people of the country.

The group I called the VC Main Force Ladies' Auxillery Memorial in the black fatigues and ditty hats with carbines was interesting to say the least. Especially as most seemed not old enough to have been alive when Black PJs and US M-1 Carbines were in style in the south.

The group of war of liberation vets was interesting and it was interesting that only one leader on the viewing stands stopped his "Royal Wave" and shook a saluting fist for them. Makes one wonder how much of the leadership are them selves vets of anything but parades...... sort of like ......here.

-kBob
 
The defunct S Vietnamese forces received thousands and thousands of those M1 carbines. And goes to the Garands as well. The Vietnamese are just lucky ...
 
Nathan,

Don't forget that French left a few carbines in what we called North Vietnam.

At one point the North VN made a Submachinegun that was a hybrid of PPSh41 and MAT 49 using parts of both.

They also supposedly rebarreled MAT49s in 7.62 P but I wonder about the differences in cartridge length.

Speaking of all those "abandoned" Carbines and Garands with normalization of trade I wonder if they might sell us our guns back?

-kBob
 
Aaaah, at one time , seeing that many NVA in one place all I would be able to think about is a few dozen " time on target " rounds. But time passes, and now all I can think about is a few dozen " time on target " rounds. But like the WWII vets and Korean War vets, we old angry Vietnam vets are slowly becoming a page in the history books. :fire:
 
The Chinese make an M4 copy..... could be them....

My first thought too; a foreign made knock off. Its hard to tell from the YT video, but they look .... "off".

Call me crazy, but those "M4" carbines don't look like real rifles at all.

Naw, you're not crazy. They certainly don't look right.
 
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