greetings erybody!! long story...will not use perfect grammer..got free law enf acadamy brass..on a tite budget...ordered equip...lee classic turret and 40 cal dies and all extras...did splurge for a rcbs elect scale...abc's on the way and have read lee's 2nd ed twice...dispatch at sheriff's office on midnites..lots of time to read threads and make notes...problem #1...looked at load data in lee's and bold letters: do not use handloads in glock 40 cal...in a bind now...gonna have to order 45 cal dies and reload for my colt 1911...need to sell brass to order...law enf brass was 40 cal and a buttload of 357 sig and 223...no idea of what to ask for the 223..is 5 cents to 10 each a fair asking price for the 357 sig brass?? lots of it is nickel plated winchester...where can i post it?? please don't say e-bay...problem #2..50 miles to nearest place for powder and primers...got some cci primers...no win 231 or power pistol...lots of numbers of powders i do not understand yet...settled on 1 pound of bullseye for now...not gonna reload for rockets...just plinking rounds...probably 230 grain hardball...any suggestions for lower end loads...thanks for listening to my problems and your advise...looks like i am still several days from loadin my first pill...still need to do more research and brain picking...any advice and help is greatly appreciated....dirtyjoe
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mongoose33
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Kinda hard to follow a stream-of-consciousness post, Joe. 
I don't have the Lee manual, but I suspect the reason it warns you away from the Glock reloads is the not-fully-supported chamber in the .40. Does that mean you can't load for it? No.
But while reloading isn't rocket science, it is a pastime in which care must be exercised to avoid kabooms.
Take a look in the trading post section on THR for ideas on what brass is sold for.
My suggestion is to use a powder that mostly fills the case, as it makes identifying a double-charge easy--it spills out!
I see that you don't have any reloading manuals on your list. Get a couple of them, such as the Sierra and Hornady and Lyman #49. Read 'em. You can see in them a variety of loads for various combinations of powder and bullets.
Do not rely solely on the internet. It's the internet, not the infallible-net. You need at least two reloading manuals w/ load data in them to cross-reference loads.
I use a lot of W231 and WST so I have no loads to suggest--but you should start in those reloading manuals..
When you become more comfortable w/ the process, you'll want to buy powder online, in 4# or even 8# jugs of it--a capacity that spreads the hazmat fee out over a lot of pounds. Same for primers.
I don't have the Lee manual, but I suspect the reason it warns you away from the Glock reloads is the not-fully-supported chamber in the .40. Does that mean you can't load for it? No.
But while reloading isn't rocket science, it is a pastime in which care must be exercised to avoid kabooms.
Take a look in the trading post section on THR for ideas on what brass is sold for.
My suggestion is to use a powder that mostly fills the case, as it makes identifying a double-charge easy--it spills out!
I see that you don't have any reloading manuals on your list. Get a couple of them, such as the Sierra and Hornady and Lyman #49. Read 'em. You can see in them a variety of loads for various combinations of powder and bullets.
Do not rely solely on the internet. It's the internet, not the infallible-net. You need at least two reloading manuals w/ load data in them to cross-reference loads.
I use a lot of W231 and WST so I have no loads to suggest--but you should start in those reloading manuals..
When you become more comfortable w/ the process, you'll want to buy powder online, in 4# or even 8# jugs of it--a capacity that spreads the hazmat fee out over a lot of pounds. Same for primers.
JimKirk
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Joe
Ifyouwantanyhelpfromanyofusitwouldhelpustohelpyouifyouwouldusealesatsomeparagraphsandbreakupyoursentencessowecouldreadwhatyouwrotewearenotgoingtogradeyouonyourpapertodaybutstartingtomorroweverythingcountsforyourpassinggrade!
Jimmy K
Ifyouwantanyhelpfromanyofusitwouldhelpustohelpyouifyouwouldusealesatsomeparagraphsandbreakupyoursentencessowecouldreadwhatyouwrotewearenotgoingtogradeyouonyourpapertodaybutstartingtomorroweverythingcountsforyourpassinggrade!
Jimmy K
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so you have time to sit around at work to read the internet, and you have the time to warn us that you can't be bothered with good grammar.
You can't find the time to display respect to the people that will try to help you, by typing an understandable post, readable post.
Fascinating.
(for the 230, 4.0 to 4.8 grains of Bullseye)
You can't find the time to display respect to the people that will try to help you, by typing an understandable post, readable post.
Fascinating.
(for the 230, 4.0 to 4.8 grains of Bullseye)
medalguy
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dirtyjoe, it's just hard to go through a thread like yours and determine what you're asking. Use proper grammar and punctuation and it's easier on everybody.
And welcome to the forum. There's a ton of knowledge here, so take advantage of it.
And welcome to the forum. There's a ton of knowledge here, so take advantage of it.
The Bushmaster
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Write the "book". We'll read it...
mongoose33
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One more thing, Joe:
Don't hurry.
What matters is how good you are--six or nine months from now--at understanding reloading and in producing excellent handloads.
I know--believe me, I know--how great is the temptation to hurry up and get there.
But if you don't learn this in a deliberate fashion, taking care not to take shortcuts (or more likely, miss things that are important), then you run some risks that you don't want to run.
Think about where you want to be six months from now, not six days from now. And work toward that goal.
Don't hurry.
What matters is how good you are--six or nine months from now--at understanding reloading and in producing excellent handloads.
I know--believe me, I know--how great is the temptation to hurry up and get there.
But if you don't learn this in a deliberate fashion, taking care not to take shortcuts (or more likely, miss things that are important), then you run some risks that you don't want to run.
Think about where you want to be six months from now, not six days from now. And work toward that goal.
bullseye308
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No problem loading for glocks. Most manuals & even the one that came with your glock will tell you not to reload for a glock. Way too many folks do it with no problems. In a glock fotay you will need to be a little more cautious than say a 9mm or 45, but it is easily done.
What gen is yer glock, and are you still using the factory barrel? If you have a gen 3 or a replacement barrel, you might get away with shooting lead in a more supported barrel than a gen 1 with a factory barrel.
Before you attempt to load your first round, read the ABC's when it comes in and see what ?'s you have afterwards. Ask here and you will get the help you need. Reloading isn't hard, you just have to follow the book and be patient, the payoff is there.
243winxb
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I think many do, but the brass is unsupported in the chamber, so keep the loads lite.
Sell brass here, as for price, who knows. Post here > http://www.thehighroad.org/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=10&f=50 45acp load data using Alliant Bullseye with 230 gr bullets. Start 4.0gr to maximum of 6.0gr. Personally, i would NOT load more then 5.0gr in the 45acp
RustyFN
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Joe I would rather read a long post that is well written than what you have above. Don't worry about reloading for a Glock 40 especially the newer ones, shouldn't be a problem. On the 223 brass it should sell for around $60 per 1,000.
LiveLife
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dirtyjoe, welcome to THR and the fascinating world of reloading!
We all have our moments
... Let's say you were really tired one night from working really hard all week and just rambled on ... right?
Don't be shy and ask away - as you may have read from the various threads, there are no "stupid" questions. Most here just want you to be safe and enjoy reloading - and that's where often the "cautious" comments come from. We want you to hang onto your fingers you have.
Bullseye is a good fast burning powder for pistol loads. I use Bullseye for shorter barreled compact/subcompact loads for faster burn, but it works well for med/full size pistols too. It's always on my bench close by not like WSF or HS6.
FYI, if you can't find Winchester W231, you can also use Hodgdon HP38, IMR 700X, Ramshot Zip as same burn rate powder. Haven't tried Green Dot, but comes close enough to W231 in burn rate (a bit faster) and much cheaper too.
We all have our moments
... Let's say you were really tired one night from working really hard all week and just rambled on ... right? Don't be shy and ask away - as you may have read from the various threads, there are no "stupid" questions. Most here just want you to be safe and enjoy reloading - and that's where often the "cautious" comments come from. We want you to hang onto your fingers you have.
Bullseye is a good fast burning powder for pistol loads. I use Bullseye for shorter barreled compact/subcompact loads for faster burn, but it works well for med/full size pistols too. It's always on my bench close by not like WSF or HS6.
FYI, if you can't find Winchester W231, you can also use Hodgdon HP38, IMR 700X, Ramshot Zip as same burn rate powder. Haven't tried Green Dot, but comes close enough to W231 in burn rate (a bit faster) and much cheaper too.
JimKirk
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Joe
Welcome to the THR! Now that we got all that out the way, I think that you will find answers to most any questions, lots of combined experience here. I have started adding a blank line between answers-questions-thoughts, that makes it easier to follow.
Jimmy K
Welcome to the THR! Now that we got all that out the way, I think that you will find answers to most any questions, lots of combined experience here. I have started adding a blank line between answers-questions-thoughts, that makes it easier to follow.
Jimmy K
To Bullseye 308:I am not sure what generation it is, it is an older model without mounting rails on the frame.
To 243 winxbr the load data. Still have a couple days work on my bench and then have to get the dies set in the press.
To BDS: Thanks for the suggestions. I am going to try and stay with 1 powder in the beginning so as not to confuse myself. Hopefully I will have several years left to experiment if I can hit the lottery or get a 2nd job!!
To Rusty FN: Thanks for the suggestion. I'd be happy to get half that price.
To BDS:Thanks for the suggestions. I will pick your brain later for powders. Going to just use the Bullseye until I get comfortable.
To JimKirk: Thanks!
To pcwire pro: Yeah I'm gonna come back. Just took a little while to be able to sit back down after getting my butt chewed out!!! I really do appreciate all your help.
I will start a new thread with my next question as I find it hard to keep checking on this one. Guess I could write the date and time down and look it up that way. Good day to all!!!
To 243 winxb
r the load data. Still have a couple days work on my bench and then have to get the dies set in the press.To BDS: Thanks for the suggestions. I am going to try and stay with 1 powder in the beginning so as not to confuse myself. Hopefully I will have several years left to experiment if I can hit the lottery or get a 2nd job!!
To Rusty FN: Thanks for the suggestion. I'd be happy to get half that price.
To BDS:Thanks for the suggestions. I will pick your brain later for powders. Going to just use the Bullseye until I get comfortable.
To JimKirk: Thanks!
To pcwire pro: Yeah I'm gonna come back. Just took a little while to be able to sit back down after getting my butt chewed out!!! I really do appreciate all your help.
I will start a new thread with my next question as I find it hard to keep checking on this one. Guess I could write the date and time down and look it up that way. Good day to all!!!
RustyFN
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Joe just a quick safety tip. When you do end up with more than one powder ( we all do ) never have more than one bottle on the bench at a time. I know too many people that have and grabed the wrong bottle, including myself. Luckily I discovered it when I went to pour the powder back into the bottle and didn't shoot any. Only had 100 to pull. 
bullseye308
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The earlier generations had a less supported chamber than the newer generations. Do a little research for the "glock bulge" or "glocked brass" and understand it before you get too far into it. Once you understand it, you will know what you are looking for and how to deal with it.
Many hundreds of thousands of rounds have been loaded from early glock 40's with no problems. I'm sure you will add some to those numbers.
Many hundreds of thousands of rounds have been loaded from early glock 40's with no problems. I'm sure you will add some to those numbers.
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