WA Elk next year?

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Anyone want to help thin the herd?
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WDFW NEWS RELEASE
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
http://wdfw.wa.gov/

December 7, 2006
Contact: Wildlife Program, (360) 902-2515


Plan calls for expanding hunting to
reduce Mount St. Helens elk herd

OLYMPIA - The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) today released a new management plan for the Mount St. Helens elk herd that calls for expanding hunting options to reduce the size of the herd, currently estimated at 12,500 animals.

Citing the declining availability of forage in the area, the five-year plan supports gradually reducing the state's largest elk herd to about 10,000 animals to bring it into line with the "carrying capacity" of its range in southwest Washington.

"All evidence points to the fact that this herd is being strained by loss of forage due to changes in timber practices and other factors," said Dave Ware, WDFW game manager. "The new management plan recognizes that the area's habitat cannot adequately support that many elk."

Ware noted that at least 400 elk have already gathered in the mudflow area at the foot of Mount St. Helens, where more than 60 elk died of malnutrition and related causes last winter. WDFW has scheduled a special hunt for disabled hunters in that area Dec. 11, and is planning additional hunts in other areas of the herd's five-county range next year.

The management plan, which incorporates suggestions made during a series of public meetings last summer, also calls for:

Continued monitoring the health of elk wintering in the Loo-Wit game management unit and the Mount St. Helens Wildlife Area.
Collaboration with the U.S. Forest Service and other landowners to improve elk habitat throughout the herd's range in Clark, Cowlitz, Klickitat, Lewis and Skamania counties.
New strategies for reducing impacts by elk to forestlands, farms and pastures.
Consistent with the plan, new hunting opportunities will focus on cow elk to reduce the herd's rate of reproduction, Ware said.

"A lot will depend on the willingness of timber companies and other large landowners to allow hunters onto their lands," Ware said. "We know some landowners are concerned about damage caused by elk, and opening their gates to hunters will help address that problem."

The management plan does not rule out winter feeding of elk to prevent starvation, although it cautions that the practice can concentrate elk around feed sites, spread diseases and parasites, damage vegetation and permanently change elk behavior.

The Mount St. Helens elk herd is one of 10 elk herds in Washington state. Since 2001, WDFW has completed separate management plans for seven of those herds to supplement management policies outlined in the statewide Game Management Plan.

A copy of the new management plan for the Mount St. Helens herd is posted on WDFW's website at (http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/elk/sthelens.htm ). Hard copies may be obtained by contacting the department at Wildlife Program, Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife, 600 Capitol Way N., Olympia, WA 98501-1091.

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I'm always up for trying.:banghead:

I prefer the East Side Tag but might be swayed into getting stuck in the rain mud and snow prompting an unplanned helicopter ride on the West side.
 
I got that report too..

Forgive me for not advertising to other THR members. I'm greedy. Don't want that many more hunters in the woods contending for my Elk.

That said, I hope they stick by the report and allow some more draws or either sex hunts in the St. Helens unit.

I just might also be game for that hunt. I've hunted south of there north of White Salmon.

Yes, Elk season there can be very wet and cold. Storms funnel from the south between St. Helens and Mt. Adams.

-Steve
 
Steve,
If you want an Elk all to your greedy self you must have quads of steel to be able to pack the thing out all by your lonesome. :D I'd be happy if someone in a small group got one and we split it up. A friend was part of a party that got an Elk in ID this year. It took them 3 days to pack it out 5 miles. Rough miles I'm told...

Polish - got any spring turkeys on your place?

rwc
 
I grew up in Tacoma. One of the many times hunting the Eatonville plateau... Stepped on a stick in my youth, (made noise...) The place was crawling with 'Seattle hunters'. The guy shot from the hip. Dad and I came really close to getting shot.

As for getting away,, I prefer not to hunt near others. My hunting partners know, If I leave in the morning with my day pack, I might not come back to camp by dusk. Five or more miles away from any road wouldn't be out of the norm for me.

Bringing the whole animal back on my own? Not a chance. I'll share Elk meat with anyone that helps.

-Steve
 
RW, I saw a bunch of Turkeys up there during deer season, but I typically go over to the 133 for my spring turkey. I've got family in the area that allow me to base camp. A lot of birds too.:D
 
This seems as good a place as any to ask, what with all the WA hunters circling...

I've never hunted, but I want to get started. I know I missed deer season this year. Depending on when the seasons are, I'll probably miss next year, too-I'll be at an Army school in VA from August through mid December.

But after that I should be back. Anyone out there willing to take a 30-something soldier who wants to learn to hunt so he can teach his boys under their wing?
 
Turkeys!!!

We hunted Pend Oriel wildlife area for WhiteTail this late season. I took a very decent 5x6 there last year. http://www.cnw.com/~hotrod/Hunting/5x6_2005Whitetail.JPG

Last year I saw a few Turkeys. This late Deer season we had 8-10 Turkeys walking through our camp. And more than once when still hunting I was held up in the woods by several Turkeys. -Not wanting to spook them, thus spook any bedded down deer. You have no idea how difficult it was not to take a big gobbler with pistol for some fresh camp dinner. (out of season)

Highlight of the hunt was seeing a Bull Moose in the woods! I kept my distance, but he knew I was there. Awsom animal!

For those of you wanting to learn to hunt. First thing, you need good equipment. Big game rifles. I'll suggest the 30-06 for caliber. Learn your rifle off the bench then practice out to 200yds off hand. Scoped. You might also want a lever action 30-30 for brush hunting. or 44mag pistol. I practice with my revolvers out to 100yds.

Now, that's leaving the kids out of the mix so far. You need at least one season in the woods by yourself. Remember, when out with the platoon, you've got a huge support system. Out in the woods hunting, You're on your own. You need more gear for the terrain and weather you're hunting. Gortex boots, (nobody knows feet better than the Army), with soft soles for quiet stalking. BDU's are often too noisy for hunting Blacktail, and Whitetail but if you have old pairs, they'll do. I suggest having a few pairs of wool pants. Of different weight for different temperatures. Now, that's not to discount many of the commercial hunting clothing manufactures. But, since you've never hunted, don't go in to it breaking the bank. Long underwear, 1.5 pair of wool/acrylic socks per day of hunting Plus camp socks. Safety orange vest and hat. COMPASS and MAPS. And know how to use them. The hikers '10 List'. I carry a GPS, but I still cary a lensatic compas.

Camping gear. For all seasons. Without a camptrailer or camper on your truck, I suggest a good wall tent with extra tarps. The standard Coleman "water resistant" tent won't cut it. There's some good military surplus equipment available. Near Fort Lewis, go to the Duffle Bag on South Tacoma Way. Lot's of hunting clothing can be had on Ebay. Have I hunted out of truck/canopy and tarp.. Yes, it's a place to start, but not near as nice as having a camper/facilities.

You can do a lot in the off season. Just pick up a Washington Hunting & Fishing news at your local hunting supply store. Try Sportco in Tacoma. GI Joes might even have them. You'll want Sept/Oct. issues if you can get them. That'll give you ideas where to start. -In areas where there's not a lot of snow, just get off the logging roads. Hike down in the bottoms of draws, slowly into Alder thickets. You'll spook deer before you know it. OK, that's for Blacktail on the west side of the mountains. Mule and Whitetail on the eastern side are pretty much in winter range now. Same thing, where there's not 18" of snow, these animals are in late stages of rut and are pretty easy to get close to. If you spook a Mule deer, hold your ground, find cover, often he'll come back to the same spot that he felt was safe. If you spook Whitetail, he'll be in the next county if you didn't get a shot. File a trip report before you hike off the main roads. Make sure someone knows where to send the search party. -So there's a lot you can learn on your own, before hunting during open season. Study the game regulations and ask questions. Those of you elisted in the Army, Go to the post commander office and ask about hunting regulations on post. There are several good Blacktail on base.

I've got two teen/pre-teen boys I'm teaching now. Biggest thing is knowing how to get back to camp during darkness. Getting them over the fear of being alone in the woods is a challenge.

I suggested deer first. Elk hunting is hunting at an entirely different level and usually brings on a totally different weather pattern.

That's a start... Cut your Christmas lists short.. Buy gear, then next spring, hit the hills on your off days. If you've got equipment, testing it now isn't a bad idea, but be aware of flood zones. After a rain storm, you know how fast the rivers can rise. The late fall storms stranded some hunters on the west side.

If you get a chance to varmint hunt in the spring, do it. They're very challenging.

-Steve
 
Brother n' Law, his brother, our nephew, me in camp... Breakfasts and lunches aren't anything fancy.

I was first to set camp, so I put a Tony's pizza in the oven for my first dinner. Next night I thaw'd Venison burger for a mix with some Ragu and long Spaghetti for dinner. Another night we put a pre-made Lasagna in the oven. Had some for lunch the next day. I just fired up the generator and put the plate in the microwave. Next night B'n'L asked us over for home made Enchalada's. Next night was Elk steaks baked in the oven. Raining cats and dogs so we didn't BBQ. There were Venison chops another night. Diced chicken breast in a thick fetachini sauce with noodles another night. (I prefer this with Grouse..)

Now, you can live on Hungryman/Cambells soups when hunting, but it's a lot nicer to be able to cook home cooked meals in hunt camp. It was almost like mama was there. Next season I'll be taking both of my boys at the same time.. Mama is thinking about coming along. It'll be nice to have someone to do the dishes... -and keep the fire going.

-Steve
 
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