Walking Sticks /and Canes for Training?
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There are loads of options, depending on the type of training. A stock cane from a tractor supply place or eNasco is a cheap and durable crooked type if that is what you are looking for.
There are also a variety of 1x36" dowel available in hardwoods that should be suitably strong if you just need a simple hanbo design with no parts to fly off. Examples good woods are oak, hickory, osage orange, purpleheart, cocobolo, jatoba, chinese waxwood and American hornbeam. They are all strong and durable, but have different properties of density and flexibility. You might want to experiment.
There are also a variety of 1x36" dowel available in hardwoods that should be suitably strong if you just need a simple hanbo design with no parts to fly off. Examples good woods are oak, hickory, osage orange, purpleheart, cocobolo, jatoba, chinese waxwood and American hornbeam. They are all strong and durable, but have different properties of density and flexibility. You might want to experiment.
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Bamboo for training, unless of course you'd like to train with actual weight as it is very light.
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I train with the sticks I carry. If they will not hold up to repeated strikes on a heavy bag you should not bet your life on it anyway. Full contact training should NOT be done with anything lighter than what you carry. It will throw your sense of timing and distance way off.
What if you did all your basketball practive shooting baskets with a light weight kickball?
What if you did all your basketball practive shooting baskets with a light weight kickball?
1-1 1/8" canvas micarta rods are my preferred choice. A 4' piece will run you about $50, and you'll never damage it with full power strikes to soft targets. You might not even damage it with full power strikes to hard targets. I had a canvas micarta 1 1/4" bo that was frequently used as a target for wooden training weapons.
John
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JShirley,
Do you know exactly what that 1 1/4" piece of canvas micarta weighs? I am thinking about buying one.
Do you know exactly what that 1 1/4" piece of canvas micarta weighs? I am thinking about buying one.
You can buy 8' lengths of Delrin/acetal rods from plastics stores like Tap Plastics for under $45, and they will even cut them for you to whatever lengths you want.
You can also get polycarbonate and Nylon rods for about the same.
These are the same materials that some martial arts suppliers sell at great mark-up.
You can also get polycarbonate and Nylon rods for about the same.
These are the same materials that some martial arts suppliers sell at great mark-up.
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Blackthorn Irish walking sticks are around $35 on Amazon/Ebay. I beat up a Birch tree yesterday with my lasted addition. This one still has some thorns on it or I should say, did have some thorns on it, less now.
This guy (Manny) http://www.bukiyuushuu.com/homepage.html, will make Escrima sticks at any length. He finishes them with a nice handles. My longest set is 28" but I am certain he would accommodate a walking stick length.
Mine are hickory. He strongly recommended hickory over oak and ??? (can't remember the other wood). Price is $45 + shipping
Jim
This guy (Manny) http://www.bukiyuushuu.com/homepage.html, will make Escrima sticks at any length. He finishes them with a nice handles. My longest set is 28" but I am certain he would accommodate a walking stick length.
Mine are hickory. He strongly recommended hickory over oak and ??? (can't remember the other wood). Price is $45 + shipping
Jim
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In response to the comments above by PB and Owen, I had an interesting revelation today. Saturday mornings are with my stick trainer. He uses bamboo and I use my hickory sticks. I held both sticks and noticed little if any weight differences. His stick is relatively large though.
Jim
Jim
P.B.Walsh
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Well, inch by inch, hickory will be heavier, plus it dosen't split easily (vertically) like bamboo has a way of doing.
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Yep, PB, hickory will outlast most woods. I wasn't comparing strength, just weight. His stick was 2" longer and the diameter was at least double mine.
My point is that I would practice with a bamboo stick if it weighed similarly to my hickory stick.
Jim
My point is that I would practice with a bamboo stick if it weighed similarly to my hickory stick.
Jim
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John, can you please provide a source either here or by pm?JShirley said:
I've searched for months, but all sources I found only sell bulk big orders.
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I would be interested in a pice of canvas micarta also.
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Group buy?
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I'd take one (around $40 that is).
What kinda gripyness does a micarta rod have though, I know knife scales are the stuff, but what about a cylinder?
What kinda gripyness does a micarta rod have though, I know knife scales are the stuff, but what about a cylinder?
You may have to search for "phenolic". CE (canvas) has the literally perfect amount of grip.
US Plastics will charge $54 for a 1", 4' long piece of CE shipped USPS priority.
US Plastics will charge $54 for a 1", 4' long piece of CE shipped USPS priority.
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Hmm if we can get 5/10/15 buyers.....
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The problem is that this material only seems to come in 48" lengths. That is too short to cut and make two proper escrima sticks as they would be only 24"each, or if you cut it to get one 3' walking stick there would be a foot of waste.
If I bought one and cut a 28 inch stick would anyone be interested in buying the 20" leftover piece?
If I bought one and cut a 28 inch stick would anyone be interested in buying the 20" leftover piece?
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I may, Owen. In fact, I'd probably cut it to 16 or 18; these days, 16" is my fav short stick length.
But I can't commit yet. I'm cash strapped and have another move coming up. It's likely to be a month or more before I can do it.
I'm also thinking I may like a full 4' piece as a walking stick/Bo staff. It's been decades since I've owned a walking stick that long.
I just wish there was a way to cut it in half and install a metal threaded connector on the two ends. That would allow me to 'take it down' and strap to my pack for sections of a trail that requires two-handed traverse (up and down rock faces where trying to manage a 4' stick can be dangerous.
But I'm pretty sure that joint would be significantly weakened.
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If 4 feet cost around $60 after shipping, that is about a buck and a quarter an inch.
20 x $1.25 is $25.
Can you afford that?
20 x $1.25 is $25.
Can you afford that?
A 1x24" piece of LE rod will run 26.60, including shipping, from Zoro Tools this month. LE will show surface scuffs easier than CE, but is actually a bit stronger.
A 4' piece is 53.19 shipped.
If anyone wants a genuine walking/hiking stick first, and doesn't plan on beating the geewillickers out of it regularly, a 4' long piece of 3/4" CE is 29.82 delivered. This would be a sturdy and useful walking stick, not overly heavy, but strong enough that it could easily be pressed into defensive use if needed.
J
A 4' piece is 53.19 shipped.
If anyone wants a genuine walking/hiking stick first, and doesn't plan on beating the geewillickers out of it regularly, a 4' long piece of 3/4" CE is 29.82 delivered. This would be a sturdy and useful walking stick, not overly heavy, but strong enough that it could easily be pressed into defensive use if needed.
J
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Owen, I'm literally broke as a joke. I'm even behind on rent now.
(Bought too many new knives, a Sitka, and then expected August cash flow dwindled; I suck at budgets. :banghead: )
So no, right now, I can't even do $25.
I expect cash flow will increase again in September, but I can't commit to anything even then in this econ.
so don't wait on me.
John, that 3/4" walking stick would be a sweet deal. I'm a light person (140) so strength would be enough: I'm not hard on my sticks. But I like the idea of doubling as Bo staff (never trained, but always open), and I prefer a larger diam in my hand. 1 1/8" is better for me, and less than 1" just doesn't feel secure, esp in a gloved hand. I suppose I could put some kind of handle on it.
(Bought too many new knives, a Sitka, and then expected August cash flow dwindled; I suck at budgets. :banghead: )
So no, right now, I can't even do $25.
I expect cash flow will increase again in September, but I can't commit to anything even then in this econ.
so don't wait on me. John, that 3/4" walking stick would be a sweet deal. I'm a light person (140) so strength would be enough: I'm not hard on my sticks. But I like the idea of doubling as Bo staff (never trained, but always open), and I prefer a larger diam in my hand. 1 1/8" is better for me, and less than 1" just doesn't feel secure, esp in a gloved hand. I suppose I could put some kind of handle on it.
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