Went to range with two.. came home with three

Clay Like you, I am not a fan of the cursed lock on modern S&W revolver....I've owned the older Smiths for almost 60 years now, and carried one of them in Vietnam and several others as a civilian....all were universally good with one exception, a M-25 in .45 Colt with enormous cylinder throats that resulted in key holing and 5" + groups at 25 yds.

That said, I still own over a dozen now in my safe, plus an add'l 4 which have the dreaded hole...and while the modern DA triggers are a pound or two heavier than former years, the SA triggers are just about as good, & all four are every bit as accurate as the older models. By that I mean with good handloads, they'll easily produce 2" groups at 25 yds from a rest with iron sights, same as the older ones.

They're good guns, and in particular, I'd not hesitate to carry my M-69 anywhere a .44 would be of material benefit, (It's a .44 Mag but really perks with +P .44 Special loads of the Skelton variety). Weighing virtually the same as my M-19, it makes a dandy back up gun while hunting in bear country, and I'd vote it a top contender for those that prefer a revolver.

while I agree that stories about the cursed lock are over blown IMHO, I will add that S&W needs to tighten up its quality control. There are too many guns leaving the factory with deficiencies that would have been caught in the past. Hopefully with the move to Tennessee, they'll get a better handle on that important facet of the business. In my personal experience with two revolvers in the last ten years that needed work, but were cheerfully fixed entirely at Smith's expense and one of them was a M-36n .38 Special, built in 1992. I just can't fault that level of service.

When all's said and done, they are still a top drawer manuf. of fine guns; but they could take a page out of Colt's business plan which seems to have high commitment to quality in their guns & tighter QC standards, Smith can and certainly should do likewise.... Rod
 
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Clay Like you, I am not a fan of the cursed lock on modern S&W revolver....I've owned the older Smiths for almost 60 years now, and carried them in Vietnam and as a civilian....all were universally good with one exception, a M-25 in .45 Colt with enormous cylinder throats that resulted in key holing and 5" + groups at 25 yds.

That said, I still own over a dozen in my safe, plus 4 which have the dreaded hole...and while the modern DA triggers see, a pound or two heavier than former years, the SA triggers are very good indeed, & all four are every bit as accurate as the old models. By that I mean with good handloads, they'll easily produce 2" groups at 25 yds from a rest with iron sights, same as the older ones.

They're good guns, and in particular, I'd not hesitate to carry my M-69 anywhere a .44 would be of material benefit. (It's a .44 Mag but really perks with +P .44 Special loads of the Skelton variety). As an "K" frame weight (~38 oz.), back up gun while hunting in bear country, it's a top contender for those that prefer a revolver IMHO.

Stories about that cursed lock are over blown IMHO but I will concede that Smith needs to tighten up its quality control. They are still a top drawer manuf. of fine guns. Colt seems to have committed to quality in their guns....tighter QC standards, Smith can do likewise I am sure.... Rod
Rod, Agee with everything you said. My 25-15 was perfect, but I have heard more than one story of poor QC on some models. It reminds me of way back in about 1978 when the stainless steel model 629's first came out, the QC was outrageously bad. If Smith doesn't tighten up their QC across the board with all models, it will reflect on their bottom line and the next thing we'll see will be the sell of S&W to yet another conglomerate.
 
I always check the “pre-owned” shelf for older S&W wheelies too. But it’s a hard pass if any sport the dreaded Hillary Hole.

That monstrosity kills it for me every time regardless of price. 🙄
 
The stocks are uncle mikes.. I’m assuming gun would have come with hogue rubber? The UM’s are amazing! Perfect feel. WC’s are Berrys 148 DEWC with 3.8g of w231 at 1.2120. Very accurate and clean nice “pop”. Not too hot, not too soft.
Big Blue shipped some of them out with Uncle Mike's, Hogues, etc.... Basically whatever was in the parts bin at the time.
 
I always check the “pre-owned” shelf for older S&W wheelies too. But it’s a hard pass if any sport the dreaded Hillary Hole.

That monstrosity kills it for me every time regardless of price. 🙄
Same.

I out of the hundred plus S&Ws in the collection. Only one has a lock. A run of the mill 642 that was free. I took the lock out the moment I got it and abused it as an ankle BUG when I was a South Florida cop. Figured I'd let thay gun take all the abuse.
 
Well…. If loving Hillary hole/2 piece barrel guns is wrong, I don’t wanna be right! Oh boy. Took the 67-6 and my Trr8 to range today. LAX new 158 gr FMJ. First shot at 7 yards with 67-6 went right in the color dot I put on paper. 14.5lb DA trigger too! It’s smooth though. The uncle mikes grips are amazing. Hogue rubbers are amazing too but I get it with the mikes!! Man they’re awesome. The left target is the 67 and the last one is TRR8. Look for 8 holes. lol. Ain’t nuttin’ wrong with my new smiths!
 

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Ohh and I officially “get” the K frame gig now. Theyre all you need. Perfect. I’ve had 2 before but didn’t shoot them
 
Well…. If loving Hillary hole/2 piece barrel guns is wrong, I don’t wanna be right! Oh boy. Took the 67-6 and my Trr8 to range today. LAX new 158 gr FMJ. First shot at 7 yards with 67-6 went right in the color dot I put on paper. 14.5lb DA trigger too! It’s smooth though. The uncle mikes grips are amazing. Hogue rubbers are amazing too but I get it with the mikes!! Man they’re awesome. The left target is the 67 and the last one is TRR8. Look for 8 holes. lol. Ain’t nuttin’ wrong with my new smiths!
Lawyer locked guns with two-piece barrels are good shooters. I just personally don't like 'em.

Honestly, the only difference mechanically between my Heritage Series Model 29 and a current production Model 29 is simply the lock.

Both have the frame, lockwork, frame mounted firing pin, etc.... and it is a sweet shooter. It just doesn't have the lock.

I'm glad you gave that Model 67 a good home.
 
The Altamont santos rosewoods came in. Look and feel great! Very pleased
 

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