When will we know?

[John79]

I have been thinking about this for some time now. When will we know when its time for a sort of revolution? I mean, doesnt the constitution say that it's our duty as citizens of the United States to overthrow the government if it ever becomes tyrannical, and to reestablish the rights that were taken from us? Such as the Right to Bear Arms, and how it is being so hotly debated. I for one am pretty worried that if we get Hillary or Obama, its only going to get worse. It may start out as microstamping and manditory trigger locks, but it think it will only get worse from there. How will we know when its time for a revolt? Is it time when they try to take our guns? I'm not talking about "Well if they try to take my guns I'll go down fighting." I'm talking about a large, organized, focused, and well structured force of armed citizens standing against the government and taking back the rights that were stolen from us. How would it even get started if it even needs to? Are we to expect someone to just stand up and declare a revolt, and wait and see if he gets enough people thinking? To quote Thomas Jefferson:

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...
And what country can preserve its liberties, if it's rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure."

Makes sense to me. Im not trying to sound like some insane extremist, but I just don't want to see our country go down the drain. Thanks for reading everyone!

 

[La Pistoletta]

I'm pretty sure the founders would promtly declare the current government illegitimate if they were to be resurrected today, not just for the encroachment upon the 2nd amendment but...pretty much everything else too.

As I'm sure you know, the graduality of the Europeanization of America is very much by design. Commonly used to illustrate this is the allegory of the boiling frog. Shock the frog by throwing it into boiling water (e.g. take all guns and repeal property rights in one week) and it'll jump out. Put it in the cold water and slowly heat it up, and it'll be dead before it realizes it was dying all along.

They're spreading every dismantlement of what made the US so great out over many years, so that at no one point in time does any generation feel so upset as to revolt. It's very much by design.

 

[give]

i think that will be a tuff one,everyone knows that that guy who stands and yells revolt is getting shot,just the way it is,do you think the goverment and the people who actueally pull the strings will stand for that?they make way too much money off us,keeping people poor and in fear of each other is the best way to control us,something to think about anyway

 

[gunshow]

It's already time for mini revolutions in my opinion, as well as massive civil disobedience (civil dis has been needed for decades).

 

[springmom]

IBTL. This one more properly fits on APS, I think.

Springmom

 

[John79]

Well then I think this is a serious issue then, and I think something needs to be done about it. I'm getting really irritated because I feel like I should be doing something but I don't see how theres anything I can do. We (the people) can;t just sit down and let this happen, but I can't even begin to think of what to do. Some sort of V for Vendetta guy would be nice...

 

[ARTiger]

The time for revolt in our nation as it is now comes in four year increments occurring in November. Anything else would make the civil war seem a minor skirmish.

here's another Thomas Jefferson quote, perhaps not so famous:

". . . it is a good world on the whole; That it has been framed on a principle of benevolence and there has been more pleasure than pain dealt out to us. There are many who may say nay. Gloomy and hypochondriac minds despairing of the future. To these I say: How much pain have caused the evils that have never happened? My temperment is sanguine. I steer my bark with hope in the head and leave fear astern."

- Correspondence from Thomas Jefferson to John Adams, March 1816.

 

[mljdeckard]

Well, that's the problem with Revolution. You have to get organized first. Even if it DID get that bad one day, the people would have to be convinced on a large enough scale that it was necessary to commit to violence.

This won't happen until people go hungry.

And just to be clear, on THR, we don't advocate breaking any law. Treason is the gravest crime one can commit.

 

[Art Eatman]

This thread is not about laws or guns, but is about political viewpoints. It would be quite suitable for APS.