Where Will It Stop?

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Local paper this morning (Manhattan Kansas) had a front page story titled "Bouncing Bullets". Seems the local Police Department training range (used exclusively by local PD and paid for by taxpayers), has a few bullets bouncing over their 60 foot tall berm onto a quarry and landfill of a local construction business....which bought the land for the quarry AFTER the PD range was constructed, BTW. It's protrayed to be a problem, although the articles states that the rounds are not "ballistically hazardous."

I'd post a link, but the articles not up on line yet and our local paper normally is pretty proprietary about their access anyway.

I'm expecting a newspaper attack soon on the public range in the county, despite the fact that it is only open every other Saturday and Sunday (and 3rd Thursday of the month).

I think I'm going to write a letter to the Editor suggesting that the local construction company should shut up, since its not dangerous and the range was there first. And maybe that if the local PD would open up its range at certain times to the public, they'll get more support from the taxpayers they're going to soon ask to pay for improvements on their shooting land.
 
Regardless of who bought what last, any bullets "bouncing" over the berm are a real problem. The PD needs to address this issue before there's a move to shut down the range. An unsafe range is an unsafe range.
 
Does not surprise me one bit. I had to spend what amounted to three weeks in Manhattan Ks. this year at that worthless school of higher education.

I have never seen so much stupidity piled into a small area as I saw there.
 
How far is the berm from the firing line? How do the construction people
next door know bullets are entering their property? (bullet holes, broken
windows, damaged vehicles, etc.)
 
There's been a number of reports of bullets leaving law enforcement ranges in the last couple of years. Apparently since they get to play with full auto mechanisms a few guys always have some strings climb up and over the berm. Serious thought needs to be given to what is a couple miles downrange even if the range was there first. I've seen ranges closed down by angry yuppies who decided to build next to a range that had been operating for members and LEOs for many years.
 
A couple of inexpensive overhead baffels would solve the possibility of a stray going over the berm, even if they are doing exercizes that tend to not maximize control of the path of projectile.

If they are, in fact, bouncing or skipping bullets over the berm, the berm is the wrong slope in relation to the firing points, the wrong material, or both. There is no way a bullet can "skip" off a properly built berm.

As for full auto practice...they need to take a page from the German military training book. You are given 15 rounds, a full auto weapon, silouette targets at some simulated range (medium MG 1000m, machine pistol at 25 meters.) and you have to hit 5 DIFFERENT targets that are selected in such a manner that spray and pray will not cut the mustard....and with that 15 rounds only, ON FULL AUTO!

Teaches trigger control, as well as accuracy.
 
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