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what do u guys recommend of these air guns or if u know of a better air pellet rifle under $50, (not counting shipping) pls post a site where it can be purchased. it will mainly be used for plinking and light pest control. accuracy and velocity r the main points that i want.


Tech Force Model 22 (22cal or 177cal)
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http://www.natchezss.com/category.c...prodID=TZTF22177&CFID=207107&CFTOKEN=54228050

Norinco KL-3B (177cal or 22cal)
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http://www.ammunitionstore.com/pricelist_air.htm
http://www.southsummit.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2896

Hercules B7 (177cal)
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http://www.southsummit.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2875

Cummings B3-1 (177cal)
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http://www.cumminstools.com/browse.cfm/4,196.html
http://www.southsummit.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=2867
 
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Don't know how this one compares with your choices there, but I can unequivocally recommend one I got a couple months back, a Crosman RM377, a spring piston break barrel made by the Mendoza factory in Mexico for Crosman. I got it for $55 plus tax at Academy Sports. It's advertised at 825 fps .177. It is extremely accurate and deadly on birds with el cheapo Beeman 1222 and 1261 pellets, when adequately scoped. Plus being slightly under "magnum" config, this makes for a quiet, light recoiling, and easy cocking gun. It's got a nice hardwood stock and good ergos for me, also, and a built-in scope stop. Trigger is rather long and creepy, but not heavy - may be correctable - not sure. If you're shooting iron sights, I'd step up to the next level of Crosman, the Quest 800 or Quest 1000, which have fully adjustable rears. I put over twice as much $ into the scope and rings for this Crosman as the gun's price, but it's worth it - I shoot it much more than my RWSs now. It's just as accurate, and more fun because it's lighter and handier, and plenty of power for small critters - I took 1 squirrel with it too with a head shot.

http://www.airgundepot.com/airgundepot/rm277.html

Hmm, they seem to want quite a bit more for this one on the net that at Academy - yikes. Here's a re-manufactured one for $50:

http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976545480.htm

More factory refurbished ones:

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?a=115990

P.S. Most of your links don't work
P.P.S. Noticed that no air gun sites can ship to New Jersey - that state certainly seems like it's the central black hole for sucking down gun rights, doesn't it?
 
woops sry about the links, there fixed now. thx for the recomendation.
 
I love my Norinco fastdeer (KL3B). I bouight mine from south summit and it's great. I read up online before purchasing and it seems to have a cult following agong cheapskate airgun enthusiasts. For $24 you can't go wrong. It also feels like a real rifle, not some plastic toy like other air rifles. Accuracy and power are both great.
 
I don't know if it's the same one, but one time I got one at a gun show that looked exactly like that Cummins one there, and was Chinese-made like that one, and it was junk - the trigger group just fell apart after about 20 rounds. That TechForce looks interesting for the price, but don't know anything about it; ditto on the Hercules B7. Seems that PAC has the lowdown on the KL3B Norinco, so I'd get that one or maybe step up to the Crosman. Dunno man... :scrutiny:
 
Having bought my first B-3 in the mid 1980's I can say that for the money they are the the best bang for the buck. Having worn out 2 of the Crossman 760 pump rifles in my childhood the B-3 was a real step up. As it is a single pump and out preforms the 760 by about 100fps. Having owned and chronographed about a dozen different models of Chinese air rifles I can say that the velosity figures quoted are really optimistic even with the lightest pellets you can buy.
The break barrel rifles(TF-22,B-7) are pretty weak as they are 450-500fps and the 22 caliber ones are really weak 300-375fps.
The B3-1 and KL-3B will produce about the same velosity 600-675fps in 177 and are really border line due to the velosity in the 400's fps range for pests in 22 caliber.
The real deal is the Tech Force 38 and Tech Force 41 from
http://www.compasseco.com/
as they are the same rifles as the B3-1 and KL-3B with better sights and stocks.
Just remember that with air rifles rated under 1000fps big game like squirrels and pidgens you are limited by the thier power to head shots at 50 feet or less for clean kills. Small game like sparrows,blackbirds,etc... heart shots will result in clean kills out to 100 feet.
 
BAM B21 on the way, I'll let you know what I think of it when it gets tested out.

Used to have a Crosman 760 many years ago, it was a really good BB/Pellet rifle as long as I owned it. Eradicated a major pidgeon infestation problem with it single handidly.
 
If the Tech Forces 38 and 41 are the KL3B with nicer sights and stocks, then that seems like a good buy, as mentioned...hmmm. What about the Tech Force 97 - how is that different?
 
The Tech Force-97 is a Weihrauch HW-77 copy.
http://www.compasseco.com/shop/products.html?maingroup=Weihrauch&secondgroup=Air%20Rifles
Which was a really popular air rifle in England in the mid 1980's for "field target" competitions when it started to really gain popularity there.
http://www.airgunshed.co.uk/BFTA/index.htm
The HW-77 had a fixed barrel which at the time was thought to increase accuracy over break barrel designs. It had the most power allowable under British law without having to get a air gun licence from the govt. to own. Air rifles that produced over 12 foot pounds of engery(pellet weight x velosity=ft/lb) required a licence. Getting a air gun licence was pretty much like owning a machine gun here. Local police approval,licence fees,federal background check,finger prints,etc... so needless to say the HW-77 was a real popular rifle in England for hunting/field target competitions.
When field target competitions started in the US in the early 1990's following the lead of the British the HW-77 became popular here and the Chinese made a copy of it to cash in on it's popularity. But like all Chinese air rifles the copy was not as powerful as the original.
 
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