Winchester 1886

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I have the oppurtunity to buy a Winchester 1886 at a decent price. It looks like it's in great shape and is one of the newer models made in Japan by Miroku. One thing I'm not sure about is that it has a tang safety. Does anyone have any experience with these? I'm worried it may add some weaknesses to the design (such as light primer strikes, etc). Any advice on newer Winchester 1886s would be much appreciated. Many thanks!
 
The tang safety is much preferred over the cross bolt safety. Nothing to worry about unless you want to mount a tang sight, then I don't know if it can be done or not.
 
Thanks for the input, gents. So if I'm reading this correctly, the tang safety doesn't seem to interfere with function at all? IE with the safety off the rifle should function just as JMB intended it to?
 
Miroku makes excellent repros of the Browning-designed Winchesters. I had a opportunity to buy a 1886 in .45-70 during the 1990s prior to the introduction of the stupid safeties but it didn't work out but I did get a B-92 in .44 magnum and it is a great rifle.
I would be very very astonished if your Miroku made gun had any problems.
 
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Great guns with excellent barrels.
I have owned three over the years,
An 1886 Carbine (Too weird)
An 1886 takedown rifle (Too Heavy, crescent buttplate hurt)
And an 1886 Extra Lightweight , just right, weight, length, and balance of an 1873 Trapdoor carbine with four extra shots to boot.

Forget the tang safety is there, skip the tang mounted sight, and go with a Williams side mount aperture sight instead.
 
And an 1886 Extra Lightweight , just right, weight, length, and balance of an 1873 Trapdoor carbine with four extra shots to boot.

Forget the tang safety is there, skip the tang mounted sight, and go with a Williams side mount aperture sight instead.

I have an Extra Lightweight Model 1886 Miroku repo with a Williams "FoolProof" receiver sight mounted on mine as well. Onmilo has offered some excellent advice.
 
Great rifles! These are very high quality guns and a very good value. As Onmillo suggested, forget the tang safety is there and forget the tang sight. Put a Foolproof on it and go shootin'!
 
The quoted price was $850 which seems reasonable to me, would you gents agree? I know that a new one would be about $1000 and the older models go for several hundred more.

I do like the idea of the Williams "Foolproof" sight...I'll have to look into that. How does it mount to the receiver? Any gunsmithing needed?

Would anyone also have a good .45/70 "homebrew" recipe they like in their 1886? If so feel free to PM me. I'm going to be investing in a progressive press to get the most out of my rifle.

Thanks for all the input!
 
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Imo, $850.00 is a very good price. And, no, you don't need any gunsmithing services to install a Williams receiver sight on the 1886 repo. "Extra Lightweight" model. They screw right on to the factory drilled and tapped holes. And, at least on my "Extra Lightweight" version, there was no need to change the front sight.

I meant to ask. Which 1886 variation are you looking at?
 
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i picked up a early marlin 1895 in 45-70 serial number B001920,straite stock and 3/4 magazine tube and with a lyman reciever sight it is one of the best shooting lever action i own. i would have liked to find a 1886 browning in 45-70,but alas none ever came up for sale when i had the money. eastbank.
 
SwampWolf,
I'm not totally sure on the exact model type, but it's the fullsize rifle, so to speak, with a "pistol grip" stock (ie non-straight stock) and the octagonal barrel.
 
It's the rebounding hammer arrangement, not the tang safety, that can cause light primer strikes & misfires.
Denis
 
I used to have an Extra Lightweight with a Williams Foolproof sight, and I liked it a lot. I hadn't read about problems with rebounding hammers, so I wasn't worried about them and the gun never gave me reason to. It sure did kill things well. I sold it because I wanted something else, and I've wished I hadn't ever since. Might get another some day. Like everyone says, Miroku makes really nice guns.

The 1886 I have now is the same full-length, take-down, octagon-barrel, tang-safety, pistol-grip-stock model described by AthelstanAegen. Mine is a Deluxe Limited version with gorgeous wood, etc. I like it and it's a wonderful shooter, but it's too heavy to lug around the woods, so for me it's purely a range toy...and there we have a problem, because that very pretty crescent buttplate is fine if you shoot standing or sitting up straight, but from a bench with the forearm rested, it's just nasty. I get around that by wearing a PAST shoulder pad on myself and putting a slip-on recoil pad from a MAS 49/56 onto the rifle, which spoils its looks something terrible but makes the pain go bye-bye completely. So I dunno if it's really a keeper. I'm toying with the idea of replacing its butt and forearm with a shotgun-style set from an outfit called Macon Gunstocks, or maybe I'll just go find myself the saddle ring carbine version of the gun, or...

Re sight options, be aware that unlike the Extra Lightweight model, neither the full-length 1886 nor the saddle ring carbine comes with the receiver pre-drilled for a Williams or Lyman sight, so your options are a) live with the open sights; b) have the receiver drilled, or c) mount a sight on the tang, as I've done -- a Marble peep sight designed specifically for Miroku 1886s with tang safeties, in my opinion a great little unit. So there ya go.
 
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